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I pretty much make it standard practice to get an apple tv or whatever streaming device for all tvs and not allow internet access to the tvs. You have zero control over the tv, so why subject yourself or others to it instead of getting a $50 to $150 device.

>>kelips+(OP)
> You have zero control over the tv,

This. This is the problem. TVs with user-hostile firmware are the only options available. Imagine if the only beds available were smart beds that wake you up with advertisements and project ads onto your ceiling while you try to sleep. Honestly it seems like we're almost there

>>pcthro+q3
If we had an effective government, this would have already been solved by a FTC issue of fraudulent sale.

If I sell a widget, but do not transfer full control to the buyer, that should be considered a fraudulent sale that was misclassified from a rental.

Same for a computer. Same for a phone. Or a refrigerator. Or a car.

(Old person comment incoming) I remember when working on hardware from the 70's and earlier, the manufacturers would glue in a full schematic on the back plate. Reparability was absolute. Now, its "how can we screw you over with cryptographic signing of individual hardware"

Reparability and ownership go hand in hand. And it also strongly goes towards sustainability and ecology, with not needing as much resources.

But the "Smart TV" in your comment, pcthrowaway, is that in 5 years, the 'Smart' OS will be either so slow to be unusable, die cause a $.10 part failed, or other really dumb ewaste reason.

>>pcthro+q3
> TVs with user-hostile firmware are the only options available.

There are "business TVs", which are pure displays. Sceptre sells a whole line of dumb TVs. They also sell widescreen computer monitors.

[1] https://www.sceptre.com/

>>Animat+tg
The splash page on that website seems to be primarily AI-generated images. It looks cheap to say the least - such an obvious corner cut it's hard to have confidence in the product.

>>kelips+(OP)
Because you used to be able to buy TVs that didn't spy on you, and we, as a society, have the power to make that the case again. It should be possible to have a fancy-pants 75-inch OLED TV that does not phone home and spy on you. Full stop.

>>ventur+6K
I think it's pretty clear that voting with your dollar is a lie