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1. echelo+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-06 17:41:13
So does this finally replace SDXL?

Is Flux 1/2/Kontext left in the dust by the Z Image and Qwen combo?

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2. trippl+82[view] [source] 2025-12-06 18:00:15
>>echelo+(OP)
SDXL has been outclassed for a while, especially since Flux came out.
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3. aeon_a+t2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 18:04:25
>>trippl+82
Subjective. Most in creative industries regularly still use SDXL.

Once Z-image base comes out and some real tuning can be done, I think it has a chance of replacing it for the function SDXL has

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4. vunder+z4[view] [source] 2025-12-06 18:21:37
>>echelo+(OP)
Yeah, I've definitely switched largely away from Flux. Much as I do like Flux (for prompt adherency), BFL's baffling licensing structure along with its excessive censorship makes it a noop.

For ref, the Porcupine-cone creature that ZiT couldn't handle by itself in my aforementioned test was easily handled using a Qwen20b + ZiT refiner workflow and even with two separate models STILL runs faster than Flux2 [dev].

https://imgur.com/a/5qYP0Vc

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5. Scrape+bf[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 19:43:39
>>aeon_a+t2
Source?
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6. echelo+bz[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 22:46:38
>>Scrape+bf
Most of the people I know doing local AI prefer SDXL to Flux. Lots of people are still using SDXL, even today.

Flux has largely been met with a collective yawn.

The only thing Flux had going for it was photorealism and prompt adherence. But the skin and jaws of the humans it generated looked weird, it was difficult to fine tune, and the licensing was weird. Furthermore, Flux never had good aesthetics. It always felt plain.

Nobody doing anime or cartoons used Flux. SDXL continues to shine here. People doing photoreal kept using Midjourney.

7. mythz+dQ[view] [source] 2025-12-07 01:16:15
>>echelo+(OP)
SDXL has long been surpassed, it's primary redeeming feature is fine tuned variants for different focus and image styles.

IMO HiDream had the best quality OSS generations, Flux Schnell is decent as well. Will try out Z-Image soon.

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