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>However, I think we should be cautious in saying 'over-weigh' and 'under-weigh' because I really do think that there may be a real normative undertone when we say 'over-weigh'. I think it needlessly elevates what the typical individual experiences into what we should consider to be the norm and, by implicit extension, the 'correct way' of doing cognition.

No biggie, there's a real normative undertone to the world in general too.

Norm itself means "what the majority does" or the socially (i.e. majority) accepted yardstick ("norma" in latin was a literal yardstick-like tool).

It's not about the typical person _always_ doing things in a better way, or the autistic person always doing things differently. It's about the distribution of typical vs atypical behavior. So, it's not very useful to characterize such atypical behavior better or worse based on absolute moral or technical judgement. Morality changes over time, cultures, and even social groups, to a bigger or smaller degree.

If, however, we use "degree of comformity with majority behaviors/expectations" as the measurement, autistics do perform worse on that.

>>coldte+(OP)
Norm is descriptive. Normative is prescriptive.

Knowing the difference is important to understanding and empathizing with the person you replied to.

>>kelsey+wq
Normative is just the adjective form of "related to norm" - can still be perfectly descriptive in use. The difference you allude do is more about the practical enforcement of a norm (or lack thereof), than the kind of the part of speech use to refer to it.

I 100% understand and empathize, doesn't mean I agree.

>>coldte+yT
> Normative is just the adjective form of "related to norm"

You might want to recheck the definition of normative. Yours is a non-standard usage and you will be misunderstood if you continue to use it that way.

Norm is is, Normative is ought.

> Normative: pertaining to giving directives or rules

> Synonyms: prescriptive

>>kelsey+wq
A "norm" can refer be either descriptive (average) or prescriptive (standard), but "normative" specifically is an adjective which refers to things establishing or relating prescriptive norms (this subtle distinction is often not made in short dictionary definitions but is readily observable in use.)

>>kelsey+xY
No. Both definitions are correct. Don't tell people to recheck without first doing so yourself.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/normative