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1. kaoD+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-06 13:04:35
It's not "the internet". It is "this internet".

Back in the 90s early 00s the internet made us mesh together because each one of us there was a specific person. We had forum signatures and every single post was clearly made by a person, for a person.

Then social media took over and relegated every single person into a tiny unidentifiable avatar next to a non-prominent name, not unlike NPCs in CRPGs.

In turn this has been exploited by the powers that be to ensure the social glue gets even weaker: a society barely held together won't revolt. There's only one thing left to do: productivity, productivity, productivity.

The political opponent is no longer a person. Just a nameless, faceless NPC (personifying everything that's wrong) spawned there to be defeated and collect their social loot tokens.

But I might just be an old fart rambling about the good, old days.

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2. squigz+w[view] [source] 2025-12-06 13:09:28
>>kaoD+(OP)
Maybe the issue is this perception that "the Internet" consists mainly of the big 4 social media sites.

Go on Discord. People have usernames, avatars. Discord Profile Bios are just as unique as forum signatures.

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3. kaoD+91[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 13:14:58
>>squigz+w
I am on Discord and the balkanization+homogeneization is still as prominent there as everywhere else.

Server admins are just NPCs providing @everyone announcements from time to time, to keep the player engaged (spoiler: the average Joe is just irritated by those). Sometimes you get a quest from them.

Also: 99% won't read profile bios (and you have to pay for actual customization, don't you?) while forum signatures were front-and-center.

I have to say I'm surprised to see Discord mentioned as an opposite to social media instead of... just yet another iteration of the same ploy.

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4. iammjm+f1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 13:15:43
>>squigz+w
Fuck discord. Another big for-profit platform that is swallowing big chunks of the internet. before discord there were lots of self-organized forums with their own communities and rules. Now I need to register with some big overlord and download their shitty app just to read what has before been just an URL away?
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5. squigz+G1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 13:19:07
>>kaoD+91
> Server admins are just NPCs providing @everyone announcements from time to time, to keep the player engaged. Sometimes you get a quest from them.

Maybe you should join better servers. I'll also add that this was common back in the forum days too. Most admins would just... admin the site.

> Also: 99% won't read profile bios (and you have to pay for actual customization, don't you?) while forum signatures were front-and-center.

Wrong on both counts.

> I have to say I'm surprised to see Discord mentioned as an opposite to social media instead of... just yet another iteration of the same.

I did not present it as an "opposite to social media" - I presented it as a counter to the idea that we've lost the personality GP is talking about

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6. kaoD+x2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 13:26:30
>>iammjm+f1
But you can enjoy it before enshittification arrives!

All praise our VC overlords.

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7. BeFlat+c3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 13:31:17
>>squigz+G1
You're one of the 1% who reads profile bios.
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8. Aldipo+d4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 13:40:33
>>squigz+w
Discord also is a centralized piece of proprietary totalitarianism. No thanks.
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9. lanyar+te[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 15:14:50
>>iammjm+f1
Nah. Right in the browser works great: discord.com/app

You’re going to keep running into a wall thinking of discord like a forum replacement; It’s designed to be an IRC replacement.

The invitation system intentionally creates some privacy so you can build a sense of enclosed community around them, and so you have some control over who sees what. Not having your conversations on full automatic blast to the public is a feature.

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10. squigz+dl[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 16:06:09
>>BeFlat+c3
Of course, because the alternative - that they're wrong, and more people actually do read bios - couldn't possibly be true.

In any case, I see no reason to believe any higher % of people paid any particular attention to forum signatures back in the day.

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11. astran+7m1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-07 00:59:41
>>iammjm+f1
> before discord there were lots of self-organized forums with their own communities and rules.

And running them was awful and drove the people who did it insane, mostly because you had to fight spambots.

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