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Would you rather be attacked by 1,000 wasps or 1 dog? A thousand paper cuts or one light stabbing? Global outages are bad but the choice isn’t global pain vs local pleasure. Local and global both bring pain, with different, complicated tradeoffs.

Cloudflare is down and hundreds of well paid engineers spring into action to resolve the issue. Your server goes down and you can’t get ahold of your Server Person because they’re at a cabin deep in the woods.

>>3roden+(OP)
In most cases we actually get both local and global pain, since most people are running servers behind Cloudflare.

>>3roden+(OP)
Why would there be a centralized outage of decentralized services? The proper comparison seems to be attacked by a dog or a single wasp.

>>3roden+(OP)
If you've allowed your Server Person to be a single point of failure out innawoods, that's an organizational problem, not a technological one.

Two is one and one is none.

>>3roden+(OP)
It's not "1,000 wasps or 1 dog", it's "1,000 dogs at once, or "1 dog at once, 1,000 different times". Rare but huge and coordinated siege, or a steady and predictable background radiation of small issues.

The latter is easier to handle, easier to fix, and much more suvivable if you do fuck it up a bit. It gives you some leeway to learn from mistakes.

If you make a mistake during the 1000 dog siege, or if you don't have enough guards on standby and ready to go just in case of this rare event, you're just cooked.

>>Lampre+e6
I don't quite see how this maps onto the situation. The "1000 dog seige" also was resolved very quickly and transparently, so I would say it's actually better than even one of the "1 dog at once"s.

>>philip+iG
Last week's cloudflare outage was not resolved as quickly...