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1. autoex+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-05 19:08:05
> Can you name a major cloud provider that doesn’t have major outages?

That fact that no major cloud provider is actually good is not an argument that cloudflare isn't bad, or even that they couldn't/shouldn't do better than they are. They have fewer resources than Google or Microsoft but they're also in a unique position that makes us differently vulnerable when they fuck up. It's not all their fault, since it was a mistake to centralize the internet to the extent that we have in the first place, but now that they are responsible for so much they have to expect that people will be upset when they fail.

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2. vlovic+7y1[view] [source] 2025-12-06 08:55:10
>>autoex+(OP)
Every major cloud provider (including Cloudflare) is orders of magnitude better at keeping 9s of availability worldwide for thousands of customers than those customers are individually. The very best of those customers might be better and only rely on cloud providers for the scaling or huge amounts of infrastructure they don’t otherwise want to own, but the vast majority are actually less capable at accomplishing whatever uptime the providers already get.

Could cloudflare do better? Sure, that’s a truism for everyone. Did they make mistakes and continue to make mistakes? Also a truism.

Trust me, they are acutely aware of people getting upset when they fail. Why do you think they’re CEO and CTO are writing these blog posts?

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