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1. mNovak+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-05 18:11:10
People don't seem to realize that Oracle is deep in the AI play, taking on a bunch of debt to make speculative leases and buildout of datacenters to rent to other players.

It's been great for them so far, but if there's an AI winter, Oracle will be the first to freeze.

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2. unsui+X6[view] [source] 2025-12-05 18:42:36
>>mNovak+(OP)
> Oracle will be the first to freeze

one can hope

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3. xattt+58[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 18:47:22
>>unsui+X6
Will this somehow liberate ZFS?
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4. legitr+Ca[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 18:57:21
>>xattt+58
It’ll just make their auditors and legal team desperate for money, which is kinda horrifying to consider.
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5. throw0+Ic[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 19:06:02
>>xattt+58
How does ZFS need to be liberated?
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6. an0mal+Sc[view] [source] 2025-12-05 19:06:42
>>mNovak+(OP)
Isn’t that all from the one OpenAI deal they made 5 months ago?
7. dareto+Tk[view] [source] 2025-12-05 19:42:38
>>mNovak+(OP)
Random but this is a very well written line:

> It's been great for them so far, but if there's an AI winter, Oracle will be the first to freeze.

Kudos

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8. tosti+el[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 19:44:23
>>throw0+Ic
They took the entire Solaris code back to proprietary source and kept improving ZFS themselves. For instance, they added encryption.
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9. limagn+Ys[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 20:25:27
>>throw0+Ic
There is debate as to whether the FreeZFS license (CDDL) is compatible with the GPL, which is why FreeZFS is not part of the Linux Kernel. Some distros are baking it in, but there has long been concern about if merging it violates the license or not.
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10. johnco+tz[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 20:56:18
>>xattt+58
It could make it worse. IP from companies that got chopped up and sold for parts can be a nightmare. You may have to do deals with multiple parties, and it can be unclear who owns what (even to the potential owners themselves).
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11. johnco+2A[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 20:58:45
>>tosti+el
Even if Oracle evaporated and their contemporary ZFS source became unencumbered, I doubt OpenZFS would want to try and merge significantly parts. They already have their own encryption implementation for example.
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