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1. theide+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-05 16:23:58
Same, my time at a F100 ecommerce retailer showed me the same. Every change control board justification needed an explicit back-out/restoration plan with exact steps to be taken, what was being monitored to ensure that was being held to, contacts of prominent groups anticipated to have an effect, emergency numbers/rooms for quick conferences if in fact something did happen.

The process was pretty tight, almost no revenue-affecting outages from what I can remember because it was such a collaborative effort (even though the board presentation seemed a bit spiky and confrontational at the time, everyone was working together).

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2. prdona+M2[view] [source] 2025-12-05 16:35:30
>>theide+(OP)
And you moved at a glacial pace compared to Cloudflare. There are tradeoffs.
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3. theide+Jh[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 17:40:32
>>prdona+M2
Yes, of course, I want the organization that inserted itself into handling 20% of the world's internet traffic to move fast and break things. Like breaking the internet on a bi-weekly basis. Yep, great tradeoff there.

Give me a break.

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4. wvenab+Si[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 17:45:20
>>theide+Jh
But if your job is mitigate attacks/issues then things can very broken while you're being slow to mitigate it.
5. lljk_k+Xn[view] [source] 2025-12-05 18:07:01
>>theide+(OP)
This sounds just as bad as yolo-merges, just on the other end of the spectrum.
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6. jimmyd+Ls[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 18:29:13
>>theide+Jh
While you're taking your break, exploits gain traction in the wild and one of the value propositions for using a service provider like CloudFlare is catching and mitigating theses exploits as fast as possible. From the OP, this outage was in relation to handling a nasty RCE.
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7. Jeremy+Kw[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 18:46:46
>>theide+Jh
Lest we forget, they initially rose to prominence by being cheaper than the existing solutions, not better, and I suppose this is a tradeoff a lot of their customers are willing to make.
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