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> Entering other markets, such as the U.S. and Canada are to be decided due course based on potential interest from the areas.

As an American, I will order this phone as soon as it’s available to me!

I’m not aware of any similar option for us at the moment so I’m a little sad.

>>abnerc+(OP)
> As an American, I will order this phone as soon as it’s available to me!

It won’t be. From the time of their first phone the company actively made the choice to not support the US market. There’s the obvious spectrum difference and cost to certify, but the real reason they don’t want to touch it is litigation risk on patents and whatnot.

>>joecoo+L5
https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-o... hope fully soon

>>joecoo+L5
Even if it's not sold in America, you might still be able to buy it and use it, how well that'll work depends on the spectrum compatibility of course.

>>abnerc+(OP)
They have a history of not shipping. They took my money for a tablet pre-order but never shipped anything. Didnt offer refunds either.

>>dman+Hf
They did offer refunds in the form of vouchers for their shop. I can understand if that's not something everyone is interested in, but it's not nothing. I made use of that successfully.

>>marius+jh
It wasnt offered to everyone. They did the whole thing by trickling out information based on batches based on when you ordered. And for the record I wasnt shipped a tablet, given a refund or offered a voucher and based on comments at the time I wasnt the only one. It was a total writeoff.

>>dman+Hf
they did indeed have a crowdfunded tablet that went wrong in supply chain, and basically bankrupted the company. Many funders lost out. That's unfortunate, and perhaps might have been avoidable with better organisation. Absolutely it sucks. They did have a limited refund program as others have noted.

However, they do not have a continous history of not shipping. I personally owned their two previous phone handsets, both shipped. Also I've bought and run their firmwares on third party handsets, they also shipped the software.

>>dman+ci
Sorry to hear that. :( I doubt that it's any consolation that they've gotten better over time on not blundering their fund raisers and pre-orders.

>>abnerc+(OP)
Did you hear about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5

>>abnerc+(OP)
The practicality of that may depend on the exact details of the modem. For example, I believe it's possible to get a fairphone in the US, but last I checked it was a poor choice because it had awful support for cell frequencies actually in use. This lists "global roaming modem configuration" which may mean that it has good coverage, but... it also might not.

>>monero+kb
This seems like the bigger problem to me the kind of people who are interested in this phone seem like the same kind of people who would be perfectly happy to order it from Europe or Asia.

I don’t think many people who really want this are the kind of people who just walk into a cell phone store and buy whatever tickles their fancy.

>>dman+ci
Did you write to them? Perhaps they could have lost your data.

>>yjftsj+Oy1
Jolla is saying they'll try to make it work on as many frequencies as possible for global support. I don't know the brand and how seriously to take that but usually English-speaking countries support are among the top priorities

>>fsflov+qr2
They answered elsewhere in the thread: >>46164485