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It's always great to read about how the people the own the means of distribution aquire also the means of production, trying to create a meta-monopoly. /sarcasm

I'm rooting for someone on the regulary side disliking all the crap that Netflix produces, and just shuts the whole thing down. Those 5 billion they'd have to pay for a breakup fee in that case would have me feeling better that I couldn't cancel their service, since my family pesters me to keep it.

>>mihaic+(OP)
There is no “monopoly” on either content distribution or creation. Amazon and Apple are both trillion dollar companies that have streaming services.

Then there is Disney, Comcast (Peacock), Paramount, STARZ (standalone company), and AMC

>>mihaic+(OP)
Netflix has had a large production studio outside Madrid for several years already.

>>mihaic+(OP)
If this goes like all the other media mergers this year, the only regulatory scrutiny will involve Netflix allowing the executive branch to install a censor / ombudsman that has final say on their news and documentary content.

>>raw_an+Z1
Technically, you're right. I feel like there needs to be new terms to describe though the staleness of the industry. "Oligopoly" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

>>raw_an+Z1
IMO I think we are going to see Paramount, STARZ and AMC bought up soon. I don't think they can compete with Disney, Comcast or Netflix in size.

>>mihaic+ab
How many competitors do you need? Apple, Disney, Netflix, Comcast, and Paramount are five major competitors.

If you as a hypothetical video content creator want to get your content distributed to a wide audience, you have five companies to go to, you can publish it to any of the video on demand services, try to monetize it through ads on YouTube, etc.

We aren’t in the 30s anymore where the only way you could see content was by going to the movie theater.

Before HBO Max was a thing, they were already selling distribution rights of content to Netflix. No one said that was a monopoly.

>>ecshaf+Ac
> IMO I think we are going to see Paramount, STARZ and AMC bought up soon.

You do know that David Ellison (Larry Ellison's son), through his Skydance Media, acquired Paramount Global (including its parent, National Amusements) in a merger completed in August 2025.

He also wanted Warner Brothers. I'm super glad that nepo baby isn't getting what he wants. He is using his daddy to talk to Trump to try stop it though: https://nypost.com/2025/12/04/media/paramount-skydances-davi...

>>jmkd+C5
> Netflix has had a large production studio outside Madrid for several years already.

One of several around the world. Albuquerque, Fort Monmouth (New Jersey), Shepperton (UK), etc.

>>raw_an+Pe
> How many competitors do you need? Apple, Disney, Netflix, Comcast, and Paramount are five major competitors.

I actually already agree that the number is not the problem. I can't articulate better, but somehow these don't actually feel like "competitors" in the classical market sense, but rather as stars orbiting the same center, as they're all moving in the same direction, and from time to time merging with one another.

>>andsoi+Ek
Quite true thanks I was just shifting the discussion further east.

>>mihaic+2q
That was more or less the case from the advent of TV onwards, though.

>>andsoi+ik
You're right, I forgot about that. Paramount with Sky is pretty big.

>>mihaic+(OP)
> would have me feeling better that I couldn't cancel their service, since my family pesters me to keep it.

Sounds like they're still creating popular content.

>>raw_an+Z1
The legal definition of monopoly in some jurisdictions means anyone with a large enough of a market share able to influence pricing, etc in a market. A market share as low as 25% can be called a monopoly. Does HBO+Netflix have a 25% share of the streaming market? I've no idea, but possibly.

>>Dharma+YJ
Market share matters little when most people have multiple streaming services they use simultaneously.

It’s not like Apple and Google where the majority of people either have an Android or iOS based phone.

YouTube I believe has more viewing hours than Netflix.

>>mihaic+ab
Monopoly is that word. "Pure Monopoly" is the term for the platonic ideal that people like to insist companies don't live up to and so aren't at all monopolistic.

>>raw_an+mO
But none of the streaming services are competing because they don't offer the same products, by design. Nobody is switching from Apple TV to Netflix because they don't share any shows - they buy both.

>>Dharma+YJ
> Does HBO+Netflix have a 25% share of the streaming market? I've no idea, but possibly.

No, not even close. According to Nielsen from this year, Netflix has only 7.5% of total TV hours and "Warner Bros + Discovery" clocks in at 1.5% ("HBO" as an independent entity is not tracked), for a total of 9%. A whopping 16% to go before crossing that 25% threshold.

https://www.nielsen.com/news-center/2025/streaming-reaches-h...

>>raw_an+mO
> YouTube I believe has more viewing hours than Netflix.

Yep by a significant margin in fact https://www.nielsen.com/news-center/2025/streaming-reaches-h...

>>purple+Zt
Not really. At that point TV was competing with cinema for attention, and each needed to provide something different. Now the mediums have merged as well.

>>array_+g92
So? I also go to two different restaurants to buy different food, or two different websites to buy two different things, or fly two different airlines to go to two different places, etc.

>>raw_an+Z1
There are only 4 major streaming services (Netflix, Prime, HBO Max, and Hulu), and only 5 major film studios, of which WB is one and it represents on its own 13% of the theatrical market. The combination of Netflix + WB + HBOMax likely represents well more than 25% of the entire market (when you combine streaming and theatrical).

>>lotsof+Ph3
Not the same, those directly compete. We all know IP doesn't work like this.

If you say you want Mexican food and I say Restaurant X is closed but we can go to Y, that's probably fine.

If you say you want to watch ratatouille and I say no, but we can watch ratatouing, which is 2 bucks at the DVD graveyard bin at Walmart, you'll say no.