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I’d rather not die in a very survivable crash.

>>TylerE+(OP)
Crash safety has become grossly exagerrated because the standards have been sharply rising last few years. Most 15yo cars will keep you safe just fine in a median crash.

>>kristj+J3
A 15 year old car currently is going for 5 figures - not a shitbox. Not unless it’s a shelll of rust held together by bondo. Then your crash standards or whatever year are meaningless as the chassis may have 25% or less of its design strength.

>>TylerE+W3
Sorry for asking, are you in the USA? That might explain the 5 figures thing.

>>TylerE+(OP)
Pretty much every major safety feature is an order of magnitude less meaningful than the last.

If you wear a seatbelt and eschew the most risky driving behaviors your chances of getting in a crash where the difference between 2005 and 2025 matters are very, very, very, small.

>>TylerE+W3
> A 15 year old car currently is going for 5 figures

some are, sure - but most aren’t. Plenty of well maintained clean 2010 model cars on marketplace and Craigslist for well under 10k.

>>potato+jr
At the very least, modern cars are much heavier and ultimately mass wins. For example, a 2005 Honda CRV weights 3400 lbs while a 2025 is 3900 lbs.

Plus they have tons more auxiliary safety features like lane departure warning, forward collision warning, blind spot detection, better visibility, etc. And they are roomier, have more power, get better gas mileage, and have backup cameras and Apple CarPlay!

>>potato+jr
I wouldn't buy a car without ESC, that's just batshit crazy, esp. if you live where there's a chance of icy roads.

>>dzhiur+T72
Heck, even vanilla ABS wasn't required in the US market until 2012.