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The fallback support for UniFi setups will be awesome.

I’m honestly tempted to get it for my house. My ISP downtime is pretty low but it does happen every once in a while, at the most inopportune times, which impedes working from home.

Having a wireless backup would hopefully cover those downtimes

>>dagmx+(OP)
Yeah, the fact you can use any of the ports on a dream machine as a WAN (its not optimal, but is an option) makes it really easy to have a couple of fallbacks if you really need high redundancy.

>>dagmx+(OP)
We had a 5 day power outage (Bellevue WA, not exactly in the middle of nowhere) and after 2 days both the cable internet and cell towers went down, so even 5G would not have helped. I had backup power but no internet. On the way back from Best Buy with my new starlink, everything came back online of course. But now I’m ready for the next multi day outage.

I have a network cable from my secondary WAN port on my dream machine running to my first story roof where there’s a wall mount ready for starlink to be plopped in.

>>qwerpy+01
> after 2 days both the cable internet and cell towers went down, so even 5G would not have helped.

I discovered the same thing the hard way myself recently (in Norway); turns out that cell towers only has enough battery for ~24-36 hours (if you're lucky).

However, someone messing with the fibre to my house is a bigger possibility than power outage, so I'll probably end up with this 5G product. :)

>>qwerpy+01
I’ve made the second WAN a 10gb uplink.

I wish there were cheaper 10gb switch from Ubiquiti. The link Agg is good, but still pricey.

>>dagmx+(OP)
I used to do that. Now I use starlink as backup

>>dagmx+(OP)
There are now quite a few options for wifi APs with cellular backup. I use TP-Link, and it's ok for the price, I guess, and supports adding OneMesh range extenders.

The problem with this setup for me is that it doesn't work with uplink that sometimes becomes unstable yet nominally working, and in general LTE fallback triggers slowly.

Are there any prosumer-friendly options for connection bundling, which can balance uplinks continuously?

>>dagmx+(OP)
I have a wireless backup[1] using Vyos[2] and a 5G router provided for free by the 5G service provider for those rare moments when both fiber links are dead.

At the same time I would never recommend anyone get 5G internet as their primary service if you have other options and especially not from one of these cheap providers.

[1] https://sschueller.github.io/posts/wiring-a-home-with-fiber/

[2] https://sschueller.github.io/posts/vyos-router-update/#wan-f...

>>killin+K4
Starlink has a specific backup plan too don't they?

>>sschue+ed
Hey, another person running VyOS!

How are you handling updates? Do you update on a fixed cadence, or do you build your own LTS? Or do you just take a random nightly and stick to it?

>>sofixa+Vk
I just did the update to 2025-Q2 (I use the quarterly stream build).

Initially I thought this is going to be a huge pain. I have many interfaces and also pass-through hardware like the SFP28 card. I made a copy of my primary router vm and added fake interfaces with the same MAC addresses. I then went through the update procedure which was very simple.

in vyos vm:

  wget https://community-downloads.vyos.dev/stream/1.5-stream-2025-Q2/vyos-1.5-stream-2025-Q2-generic-amd64.iso -o vyos-1.5-stream-2025-Q2.iso
  add system image /mnt/iso/vyos-1.5-stream-2025-Q2.iso
  # follow prompts
  reboot
  # boot screen will offer two version now, old and new

That was it and it worked. So from now on I know I can just take a snapshot of my vm and do it directly on the main vm without making a copy.

You do loose any custom configs you may have. In my case it was fstab changes and my cron entries.

>>CTDOCo+xi
Indeed. It's very cheap ($5?) and is fast enough to do 1080p YouTube with unlimited data. It's speed capped so if you really need it it's best to upgrade the plan that month.

>>killin+Zm
Link? Cheapest I can find is $40/month

>>turboc+qs
https://www.satelliteinternet.com/resources/starlink-standby...

Interesting option.

>>CubsFa+5u
You can’t use it perpetually they force you to upgrade after a while. It’s called „standby plan” for a reason.

>>CubsFa+5u
> 0.5Mbps (500Kbps)

I am cautiously optimistic that this means even if thousands of these devices suddenly "light up" in an outage, the infrastructure should be able to handle them, right? Thoughts?

>>wrobel+Av
I for one think this is a great marketing opportunity. Even if you have the best gigabit fiber, at five dollars a month, this is a no brainer for a lot of people. If you can have monthly recurring revenue for starlink doing essentially nothing, why not? Also, it is probably easier to upsell to existing customers.

>>sofixa+Vk
Hundreds of us!

I adore VyOS

>>dagmx+(OP)
Forgive me, I didn’t watch the videos: is that what the Dream Router supports - normal wired WAN uplink, plus 5G failover? If so, yes, that’s very attractive.

I have a T-Mobile backup home internet plan, and when I had a rack set up, it was my failover from fiber. The Dream Machine Pro did auto failover and failback flawlessly. However, I recently moved, and am redoing my homelab so I have no rack right now; internet is from a Dream Router, so I don’t have auto-failover. I doubt I’d buy this for the small window of time I expect to be in this situation, but if you didn’t have or want a rack, an AIO with failover would be great.

>>sgarla+NK
Yep, that's one of the main reasons people are excited for this. Instead of a dedicated ISP modem with 5G, you can just use this, plug it into a gateway WAN port set up as the secondary failover connection, and you'll have a backup if you get knocked offline.

https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052548713-WAN-Failo...

The 5G unit itself also has its own failover with support for two 5G SIMs.

"All are equipped with dual SIM slots, with one SIM replaceable by eSIM, and are fully unlocked: any major carrier, any type of deployment, with one piece of hardware."

You can also see the excitement in the subreddit where people are already in the Unifi ecosystem: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/1pe5xh4/explore_p....

>>sofixa+Vk
VyOS and it's parent Vyatta always have been neat. Shame it sold off and kinda got pay walled.

Interesting fact that EdgeOS from Unifi was a fork.

>>hyperc+mW
> Interesting fact that EdgeOS from Unifi was a fork

That's how I got started with it, my first "proper" router was an ER-X. It's sad they abandoned the Edge product line to move everything to the UI first Unifi one that still doesn't have all the features (specifically, conditional routing for address groups/ipsets).

>>ansgri+q6
Assuming you're talking about running like a UI router and doing multi-WAN uplinks from it, you can.

They support load balancing (e.g. 95% WAN1, 5% WAN2) and SLA monitoring (ping/packet loss/jitter) with some voting options on what triggers a swap.

I think pfsense has similar options for WAN balancing if you don't like UI for routing.

>>killin+Zm
I thought so. I saw it a while ago when I re-working my network but didn't get it because I have 2TB of data on my phone that I can connect to my router should my internet go down. It's only a 250Mbps(down)/40Mbps(up) connection but that will do for a couple of days or so.