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1. astran+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-04 23:45:38
> This country doesn’t build anything anymore and we are concentrating all the wealth and power into the hands of a few. This leaves the top 1% getting richer every year and the bottom 99% fighting over a smaller piece of the pie every year.

Wouldn't say this is an accurate description of the US economy.

https://realtimeinequality.org/?id=wealth&wealthend=03012023...

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2. greedo+1c[view] [source] 2025-12-05 01:10:29
>>astran+(OP)
When I graduated HS in 1982, the top 1% had 34.7% percent of the wealth. Today, the top 1% has 71.1%. So yeah, I'd say he's spot on. There have been a few dips and valleys, but the trend line is pretty strong.
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3. deaux+pc[view] [source] 2025-12-05 01:13:40
>>astran+(OP)
That link supports the thesis if everything?

Top 0.01%, +9.1%

Top 0.1%, +13.9%

Top 1%, +15.2%

Top 10%, +6.1%

Middle 40%, -6%

Bottom 50%, -0.1%

This supports exactly GP's two statements:

> we are concentrating all the wealth and power into the hands of a few.

Correct, their slice of the pie is growing, the bottom 90%'s is shrinking

> This leaves the top 1% getting richer every year and the bottom 99% fighting over a smaller piece of the pie every year.

Also correct, the biggest growth of share being in the top 1% segment.

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4. astran+tc[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 01:14:05
>>greedo+1c
That is not what that chart shows. It shows top 1% was 25% in 1982 and 35-37% now. Mostly related to the Great Recession.
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5. astran+se[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 01:32:04
>>deaux+pc
> > we are concentrating all the wealth and power into the hands of a few.

> Correct, their slice of the pie is growing, the bottom 90%'s is shrinking

Not sure about "power" there. In my experience you get power by having a lot of free time and dedication to something else other people don't care about… which yes includes billionaires obviously, but most of the people meeting that description are just middle class retirees, so they're outnumbered.

> > This leaves the top 1% getting richer every year and the bottom 99% fighting over a smaller piece of the pie every year.

> Also correct, the biggest growth of share being in the top 1% segment.

It does not show it "every year", there are long periods of stagnation and some reversals. I would say it shows that recessions are bad and we should avoid having them.

nb another more innocuous explanation is: there's no reason to have a lot of wealth. To win at this game you need to hoard wealth, but most people are intentionally not even trying that. For instance, you could have a high income but spend it all on experiences or donate it all to charity.

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6. bradly+Gn[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 02:55:42
>>astran+se
Who is in the white house regularly dictating policy? Is it old retirees with no money or connections?
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7. astran+Ro[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 03:09:06
>>bradly+Gn
Who's at your local city council meeting getting every single proposal to build an apartment cancelled? (It's the old people.)
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8. peterf+T82[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 16:06:23
>>deaux+pc
People move a lot between those "buckets" over their lives. It's not the same 1% decade after decade.
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