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1. vl+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-04 19:45:16
Have you tried Adderall? It gives extreme competitive edge. Just to get legal and easy access to performance-enhancing drugs in elite educational (aka competitive) setting it makes sense to get "disability".

And given how loosely these conditions are defined, it's not even cheating in the true sense of the word.

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2. antupi+X6[view] [source] 2025-12-04 20:15:10
>>vl+(OP)
If you have ADHD, for neurotypical people it might feel that you are performing better but results will not improve https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/smart-drugs-can-decrease...
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3. barcha+Oa[view] [source] 2025-12-04 20:30:57
>>vl+(OP)
They really don't, and if they did then would it be so bad if people who didn't "need" them took them?

Obviously if there's safety issues but for stimulants unsafe doses will 100% always decrease performance, because they'll affect sleep.

4. Aurorn+tc[view] [source] 2025-12-04 20:39:04
>>vl+(OP)
> Have you tried Adderall? It gives extreme competitive edge.

Before readers rush out to acquire Adderall, note that "trying" it does not give an accurate picture of what it's like to take it long-term. It has a high discontinuation rate because people read comments like this online or borrow a dose from their friend and think they're going to be running around like Bradley Cooper in Limitless for the rest of their career.

A new patient who tries Adderall will feel a sense of euphoria, energy, and motivation that is temporary. This effect does not last. This is why the Reddit ADHD forums are full of people posting "I just took my first dose and I'm so happy I could cry" followed a few weeks later by "Why did my Adderall stop working?". The focus part is still mostly working, but no drug is going to make you feel happy, energized, and euphoric for very long.

> Just to get legal and easy access to performance-enhancing drugs in elite educational (aka competitive) setting it makes sense to get "disability".

You're confusing two different things. Registering with the school's disability office is orthogonal to getting a prescription for anything.

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5. phaino+Le[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 20:50:31
>>antupi+X6
It's a small study and the "knapsack task" probably does not generalize to writing a paper or coding or something. Far from dispositive.
6. skeete+7s[view] [source] 2025-12-04 21:59:47
>>vl+(OP)
Steriods will give you a massive physical advantage too. If you're not doing something with a governing body and get them prescribed you're golden.
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7. greygo+yx[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 22:27:01
>>antupi+X6
Utter bullshit engineered to convince students not to do drugs. Adderall doesn't make you magically better at solving the knapsack problem, it's not NZT-48 from Limitless. That's not why anyone takes it.
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8. Aurorn+2A[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 22:40:42
>>skeete+7s
This is actually another growing problem: TRT clinics will prescribe testosterone to virtually anyone who requests it. Among new TRT patients, a large number of them didn't even have bloodwork drawn before receiving their first prescription.

Many of the TRT clinics also hide the fact that going on TRT results in testicular atrophy and lifelong dependence. The forums and Reddits are full of people who decided that injecting testosterone every couple days for the rest of their life isn't all it's cracked up to be are realizing that it's not so simple for everyone to get off of it, even with all the HCG, SERMs, and PCT in the world.

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9. HDThor+vI[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 23:26:14
>>Aurorn+tc
Abusing adderall can obviously go wrong, but if you do it right you take it once every month or so and have minimal long term effects. Stanford students arent using it for the euphoria, theyre using it so they can study all night without getting distracted. Its also not a miracle drug, you have to be in the right mindset for it to work and a lot of the people who use it dont understand that.
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10. vl+BI[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 23:27:06
>>Aurorn+tc
Everything can be abused or used incorrectly. If you drink too much water you remove salts from your body and get sick.

With Adderall (or Vyvanse) good protocol is to get small dose, like 5-10mg early morning once every one or two weeks. Then you’ll get boost when really needed and feel uplifting for few more days.

Taking it every day is insane, ADHD or not.

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11. anon84+xK[view] [source] 2025-12-04 23:36:46
>>vl+(OP)
My third time sharing this link in this post because it's just so relevant. A Slate Star Codex classic:

https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/12/28/adderall-risks-much-mo...

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12. vl+AK[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 23:36:54
>>Aurorn+2A
TRT is one of those things which requires precise and active management. But it also increases quality of life and well-being so much for 45yo and beyond that it’s insane not to use it. (And same thing with HRT for women).

Your choice is to die chronically ill, weak and depressed for decades, or feeling great and enjoying your later years.

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13. vl+KK[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 23:38:25
>>skeete+7s
If you have enough your own testosterone then doing TRT is more harm than good. But once you get older and don’t anymore - TRT is golden.
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14. astran+DN[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-04 23:56:05
>>greygo+yx
> it's not NZT-48 from Limitless

Yeah, that's modafinil.

(Or for social situations, bromantane.)

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15. stuffn+HV[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 00:55:56
>>vl+KK
The issue of course is "medical science" has continually lowered what is normal. Men 50 years ago had significantly higher testosterone than today. The blood work normal CI reflects this decrease. In reality, any man lower than 600 should probably be supplementing TRT. However, you're not likely to get it prescribed before you are below 300, and even then, it'll be just enough to get you back over the curve. There's basically no risk to it as long as you keep your total test <= 1000 ng/dL (and probably <= 800 ng/dL tbh).

The median total testosterone for the cohort born after 2000 is 391 ng/dL. 20 years before it was ~550 ng/dL. 20 years before that we were above 600 ng/dL. Men are falling ill with more chronic illness, having more sexual dysfunction, and have more feminized features. We should probably be asking ourselves why this is happening rather than adjusting blood work CI's down.

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16. vl+Pk1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 05:22:03
>>stuffn+HV
> median total testosterone for the cohort born after 2000 is 391 ng/dL.

Really interesting. I wonder what is age range. This is beyond low. At this level you naturally feel tired all the time.

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17. isolli+aC1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 08:45:24
>>vl+BI
Is this the way it is usually prescribed, a small dose every few days?
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18. austin+s82[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 12:04:33
>>isolli+aC1
Nope, typical dosage is daily.

https://www.drugs.com/adderall.html

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19. CGMthr+ZX3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-05 20:56:55
>>Aurorn+2A
>TRT clinics will prescribe testosterone to virtually anyone who requests it.

Why is that a problem, exactly? Hiding side effects is a problem I can understand, but struggling to understand why someone shouldn't be able to get TRT freely.

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