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Java's price is your time which you will need tons of as Java is highly verbose. The ultimate enterprise language

>>bossyT+(OP)
try java 25, and update your priors :)

>>spruce+81
No amount of updates will wash away the stink of Oracle from Java.

>>temp24+c2
Again, Temurin/OpenJDK disagree

>>temp24+c2
This is hn, where unless something is written in rust or zig usually, people will hate on it. They would rather pump a cli tool than any software of sizable scale.

>>bossyT+(OP)
This is such a crappy point. People say it's better now but even in java 8 it's just BS. Oh boo hoo I have to write a few extra words here and there. Woe is me. The IDE will autogenerate the boilerplate for you, you don't even have to write it yourself. And once it's there it's actually useful, there's a reason it exists.

>>spruce+81
Lipstick on a pig.

>>spruce+81
Can't exactly write Java 25 without updating your legacy application, can you? And it tends to be the oldest applications that are the hardest to update for some painful reason. Would be nice if we all could live on the bleeding edge all the time

>>sfn42+nK
Seriously. I don’t get all the over concern over the verbosity. At least in java you can tell what the hell is going on. And the tools…so good. Right now I am in python typescript world. And let me tell you, the productivity and ease of java and c# are sorely missed!

>>bossyT+x51
Developers that don't care are to blame.

>>belfth+TA
I love Rust. I love Haskell even more. I’m a big fan of Scheme. But anyone who “hates” on Java is just revealing a lack of understanding of what’s important in professional software development.