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1. liuliu+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-12-02 19:39:37
You are saying that you can raise $7b debt at double-digit interest rate. I am doubtful. While $7b is not a big number, the Madoff scam is only ~$70b in total over many years.
replies(2): >>tyingq+C1 >>roboca+Dr
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2. tyingq+C1[view] [source] 2025-12-02 19:46:35
>>liuliu+(OP)
No, I'm scamming myself. Halving my fortune because I believe karma will somehow repay me ten fold some time later.
replies(1): >>ineeda+Jc
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3. ineeda+Jc[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-02 20:37:47
>>tyingq+C1
Somehow? I've been keeping an eye on my inbox, waiting to get a karma vesting plan from HN, for ages. What's this talk of somehow?
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4. roboca+Dr[view] [source] 2025-12-02 21:54:39
>>liuliu+(OP)
> the Madoff scam is only ~$70b in total

Incorrect - that was the fraudulent NAV.

An estimate for true cash inflow that was lost is about $20 billion (which is still an enormous number!)

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