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Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?

submitted by sundae+(OP) on 2025-07-17 22:01:55 | 67 points 80 comments
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It sure seems like many articles that are critical of the Trump Administration or of certain people in the tech world (eg Musk) are flagged in under an hour. It does not matter if it a tech focused article or pure politics, it will just be flagged.

What do people think: is HN pro-fascist?


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3. mikece+O[view] [source] 2025-07-17 22:06:47
>>sundae+(OP)
You think HN is pro-Trump? Quite the opposite from what I can tell! But I have also noticed that any story mentioning Trump gets flagged. I don't see this as fascist so much as it seems like there less than zero desire to see the name of Trump regardless of whether the story is positive or negative about him.

And yes, there are some things that are coming out of legislation which would usually be of big interest to HN (or at least I would think so) but I don't bother submitting stories if one or two particular people have their names prominent in the story. It is what it is.

EDIT: That said, the one I posted today didn't get flagged (yet): >>44594622

EDIT 2: Something else that will get a story flagged seems to be anything about XLibre (for or against). I'm guessing that has to do with who is running that project which is kind of a shame since I'm curious why there's so much reflexive and visceral animosity for those suggesting we slow the roll on forcing all distros and desktop environments to move to Wayland.

4. fsflov+m1[view] [source] 2025-07-17 22:10:45
>>sundae+(OP)
>>41851458

>>44403947

18. jmclnx+Q6[view] [source] 2025-07-17 22:48:36
>>sundae+(OP)
I noticed that too, so I used this as a test case:

>>44588392

it hours to get it flagged where a Trump/Musk criticism gets flagged in a few minutes.

But it was flagged. I really really doubt HN is "pro-fascist", but I think it leans to the right because it is the rich that funds their projects.

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28. trog+ad[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 23:38:43
>>al_bor+Y5
Maybe we should define our terms then? I favour this definition of "ur-fascism" by Umberto Eco: https://archive.is/VamLM

To steal a few examples from a convenient summary list someone[1] made:

1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”

3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”

4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

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10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

Open to other definitions. But I look at that list, written in 1995, and it feels like you can check off a lot of these items in things that are rapidly being normalised.

1. https://www.openculture.com/2024/11/umberto-ecos-list-of-the...

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48. gsf_em+BN[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 06:30:17
>>recurs+mK
Indeed, HN seems to be pro-institution (because most livelihoods depend on them)

But when seemingly innocuous posts are flagged, that label seems too weak.

To those sympathetic to these political posts..upvoting or posting calm or mildly supportive comments like the above (BEFORE THE FLAG happens) might help to prevent flags..

The title of this one is too inflammatory imho

EDIT: The comments to this one seemed alright but still got flagged >>44601096

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59. PaulHo+q72[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 16:45:48
>>queenk+FA
You can but people won’t listen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

67. archag+nM2[view] [source] 2025-07-18 20:25:53
>>sundae+(OP)
There is certainly a large pro-fascist contingent, though they probably don't see themselves as such. The fact that support for Musk[1] or Thiel's political ideologies is not verboten (or at least a massive faux pas) should be massively telling. The unpleasant truth: fascism is fun if you're winning and happen to lack empathy or a moral compass.

EDIT: Not sure how one can read some of the comments in >>44605618 and not conclude that sizable portions of the userbase are disturbingly racist and fashy. But I suppose it's a nice opportunity to use the "Comments Owl for Hacker News" plugin to tag particularly deplorable users for easier flagging in the future.

[1]: As a reminder, this man supports far-right parties like the AfD and called people on government benefits "parasites." Plus a million other things. And his "wood chipper" megalomania has already lead to dozens of documented deaths in impoverished countries.

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77. gsf_em+KB5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-19 23:05:40
>>tptace+Mx2
Our proto-edger on high had a more serious one: Corporatist.

His specific usage has the center-left covered! Too bad it didn't stick

(Strictly speaking, that'd be "neo-corp", like "neo-lib", but with more of a Futurist flavor. You could even say cyberpunk :)

https://davidgraeber.org/videos/donald-trump-is-a-classic-co...

https://youtu.be/yCQDq1oG0vA

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