When that doesn't work, they start inventing hyper-specific scenarios and graphs with grounding that exists only in their imagination to push the topic further. If the AI can't solve a problem in a domain for you, well, it's that domain that's the problem, not AI. You simply need to re-invent the paradigm around your entire problem - easy stuff.
Finally, when they've failed to convince anyone with a modicum of rationality, they resort to some version of "well, fuck you, it's the future and I'll just be leaving you behind!"
Interestingly, this article has all three.