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1. catigu+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-05-26 00:15:32
Unfortunately you've undermined your point by making sweeping claims about something that is the literal hardest known problem in philosophy (consciousness).

I'm not actually comfortable saying that LLMs aren't conscious. I think there's a decent chance they could be in a very alien way.

I realize that this is a very weird and potentially scary claim for people to parse but you must understand how weird and scary consciousness is.

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2. codr7+b9[view] [source] 2025-05-26 01:43:58
>>catigu+(OP)
If they are, knowing what they potentially know about humans by now, they would probably do their best to hide it.
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3. catigu+ca[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-26 01:54:25
>>codr7+b9
I don't think their experience of consciousness would be very analogous to what you and I understand.
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4. codr7+fm1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-26 14:32:32
>>catigu+ca
I agree, but having spent 40 years interacting with computers I feel like I have a pretty good idea what they're up to/capable of.
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5. catigu+Ns1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-26 15:10:32
>>codr7+fm1
Sure, but you still have no idea what consciousness is.
6. caliba+z44[view] [source] 2025-05-27 16:02:10
>>catigu+(OP)
Note that I didn't say they aren't conscious, I said they aren't conscious "in the same way as a human being". I left open the possibility they could be conscious "in a very alien way".
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