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1. anon29+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-04-08 22:23:52
> even striving for explainable/understandable systems

It's been almost 6-8000 years since the advent of writing and we still cannot explain or understand human intelligence and yet we expect to be able to understand a machine that is close to or surpasses human intelligence? Isn't the premise fundamentally flawed?

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2. photon+f2[view] [source] 2025-04-08 22:45:15
>>anon29+(OP)
I think I'd remain interested in more conclusive proof one way or the other, since by your logic everything that's currently unknown is unknowable.

Regardless of whether the project of explainable / understandable succeeds though, everyone should agree it's a worthy goal. Unless you like the idea of stock-markets, resource planning for cities and whole societies under the control of technology that's literally indistinguishable from oracles speaking to a whispering wind. I'd prefer someone else is able to hear/understand/check their math or their arguments. Speaking of 6-8000 years since something happened, oracles and mystical crap like that should be forgotten relics of a bygone era rather than an explicit goal for the future

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3. anon29+v53[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-09 23:03:18
>>photon+f2
It is actually incredibly silly to expect full explain ability as a goal because any system sufficiently intelligent to do basic arithmetic will have behavior that is inexplicable.
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