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I have nothing to say about Cyc (apart to that the bitter lesson is bitter indeed, but was never debunked so far; and, also, I hate LLMs). But this line (from accompanying github) deserves some attention, IMO:

> Due to the lack of long-term stability of IA, I have taken the liberty to scrape those from IA and kept them here for safe keeping.

I mean, he is not wrong, and when I want to preserve something code-related, Github comes to mind as a safe place... which is crazy, if you think about it for a moment. And the fact that we are starting to use Github as a backup for IA is almost comically grotesque. I don't have a solution, but it's worth reminding that we sure have a problem.

>>krick+(OP)
What does it mean to you to hate LLMs?

>>thot_e+H2
Have you ever not hated LLMs?

>>krick+(OP)
It's worse. GitHub is owned by Microsoft and exists as a community resource only as long as Microsoft's benevolence holds out.

>>ted_du+Ba
Yes? I don't hate LLMs and I don't think I ever have. They are super useful and neat, I use them all the time from smolguys on my computer to Claude in the cloud. It's like saying "I hate forks" or something, like why do you hate a generic tool that has many applications? I love that I have these things for free at home forever, my personal wiki and time tracker have both gotten way more useful ever since I baked an LLM in.

>>ted_du+Ba
I started loving LLMs when I cussed at them enough that they started cussing back.

>>thot_e+H2
You sound like ELIZA.

>>ted_du+Ba
What did you mean when you said "Have you ever not hated LLMs"?

>>KerrAv+dd
My own thought process is that it's like Usenet or arXiv: The collective value of Github is so high that even if Microsoft loses interest, someone else will buy it from them or clone the content elsewhere. That said, I do wish there was an alternative that didn't involve a for-profit corporation.

>>krick+(OP)
Please let there be an eccentric billionaire who has backed up the internet archive for when it goes bust.

>>thot_e+8k
I think they're imitating Eliza.