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1. Walter+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-04-05 18:21:26
Who is going to know about your product if you cannot advertise it?
replies(2): >>galang+B1 >>dr_dsh+B4
2. galang+B1[view] [source] 2025-04-05 18:29:37
>>Walter+(OP)
People who pay for consumer research type services. "I want a general-purpose systems programming language with a C-like syntax that compiles to native code. It should be statically typed and supports both automatic (garbage collected) and manual memory management." One micro payment later I have a list of links and reviews. In this case the research is the product instead of me.
replies(2): >>esafak+c2 >>Walter+K2
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3. esafak+c2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-05 18:33:49
>>galang+B1
Then your company would be beholden to the Yelp's of the world. Pay up or have your listing removed.
replies(1): >>Walter+h3
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4. Walter+K2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-05 18:36:28
>>galang+B1
I've known several people who developed quite a nice product, but felt that promotion and marketing were unethical. They failed to move a single copy, and wound up bitter and disillusioned.

> One micro payment later I have a list of links and reviews

You won't get on those lists nor will you get any reviews without marketing and promotion.

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5. Walter+h3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-05 18:39:11
>>esafak+c2
Nobody is even going to know to put you on their list, unless you do marketing and promotion.
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6. dr_dsh+B4[view] [source] 2025-04-05 18:44:41
>>Walter+(OP)
I guess the idea is to ban certain types of advertising. It’s a fun thought experiment and practical — it’s why some country roads don’t have billboards and some do.

Going to a conference to promote your product to participants..

Do you allow the shills to shill?

Well, shills gonna shill— I sure wish I promoted my businesses more. It is uncomfortable at times but that’s not really a good excuse to not promote what you know to be good.

replies(1): >>Walter+C5
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7. Walter+C5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-05 18:50:09
>>dr_dsh+B4
I agree that billboards are a form of "visual pollution" that blocks scenic views. But paying for an ad on the side of a bus isn't a problem.

No, I don't think we need to argue about where the line between the two is.

replies(2): >>dr_dsh+gy >>owleye+Op1
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8. esafak+Jk[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-05 20:52:03
>>Walter+h3
As long as a search engine can find your product, so can they. That's their job. Whether they would be able to review every candidate is another matter.
replies(1): >>Walter+5B
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9. dr_dsh+gy[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-05 23:12:13
>>Walter+C5
We definitely need to argue about the line. This is the internet, isn’t it?

And, honestly, how do you know? I don’t think it is clear that all cars are fair game for all ads, nor that all billboards should be banned. We might not need a line, but we need criteria for value

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10. Walter+5B[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-05 23:39:32
>>esafak+Jk
Nobody looks past the first two or three pages in the search results. That's why SEO is a large industry.
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11. owleye+Op1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-06 12:14:31
>>Walter+C5
> "visual pollution"

I like that framing.

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