>>chmorg+K4
“WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!),” Trump said in a social media post. “BUT WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID.”

https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china...

Or as Lord Farquaad put it: "Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make."

>>chmorg+K4
Does he need to say the word recession? How direct does he need to be?

https://time.com/7266187/trump-recession-tariffs-us-economy-...

>>chmorg+K4
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kaboom-elon-musk-predicts-...

>>chmorg+K4
From five days before the election...

https://www.vox.com/politics/381637/elon-musk-donald-trump-2...

“If Trump succeeds in forcing through mass deportations, combined with Elon hacking away at the government, firing people and reducing the deficit - there will be an initial severe overreaction in the economy…Market will tumble. But when the storm passes and everyone realizes we are on sounder footing, there will be a rapid recovery to a healthier, sustainable economy.”

Musk replied, “Sounds about right.”

>>bill_j+W5
Agreed, Glenn Greenwald of all people had it pegged 8.5 years ago when Trump first won and with Brexit:

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/democrats-trump-and-the-... https://archive.ph/tfd39

I guess Vincent Bevins has the money quote:

> Los Angeles Times’s Vincent Bevins, who wrote that “both Brexit and Trumpism are the very, very wrong answers to legitimate questions that urban elites have refused to ask for 30 years.” Bevins went on: “Since the 1980s the elites in rich countries have overplayed their hand, taking all the gains for themselves and just covering their ears when anyone else talks, and now they are watching in horror as voters revolt.”

>>eunos+64
I remember when the GOP was the free trade party, and you had to look mercantilism up in the history books because it was dead. President McKinley, from the 1890s, is one of Trump's economic role models. https://fortune.com/2025/03/10/trump-william-mckinley-tariff...

I wonder how pre-MAGA GOP'ers are reconciling this new reality with their existing beliefs.

>>KerrAv+g9
That may be your lived experience, but it doesn't match the data.[1]

The working class is shifting to Trump because his rhetoric matches what they want to see: trade restrictions, protections on domestic labor, and the return of good/stable manufacturing jobs.

Trump is almost certainly not the best representation of the American worker, but he's winning because he, at least, tells them what they want to hear.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5183060/why-working-cla...

>>SteveN+Q7
Historically a lot of Republicans have derided poverty statistics and poverty programs because the people on the programs “all have big screen TVs”[0]. I’m not sure the politics are as clear cut as you indicate.

[0] https://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/air-c...

>>JohnFe+sz
Ruling out money - though domestic companies can cash in from the lack of competition, and it fits the current model of building businesses with large 'moats' so you can enshittify charge rent-extracting prices.

The other usual option is power. I think it's clear that these people will do anything, go to any extreme for power. What is the path from these tarriffs. It's also possible that they made a mistake.

In a different thread I speculated that their plan is to blame their enemies and objects of hatred for the results: >>43575061

But it seems like they need a positive result from this?

>>JohnFe+sz
I'm not sure I buy it, but this is one theory:

https://bsky.app/profile/chrismurphyct.bsky.social/post/3llu...