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ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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4. DonHop+ro8[view] [source] 2025-01-02 04:33:25
>>Bluest+(OP)
EBCDIC porn really punched my cards. ;)

I had to carefully select just the characters that would punch low resolution monochrome pornographic images into the holes of the punch card.

Just joking, I'm not that old -- I started with ASCII line printer porn, like "MC:HUMOR;VICKI BODY", over the government sponsored ARPANET, at 300 baud, so it was like a nice long strip tease on taxpayer dollars. Vicki took almost 4 and a half minutes to finish at that rate, longer during busy weekday business hours. If I recall, the good stuff was all UPPER CASE, which made it much more intense.

NSFW: https://web.archive.org/web/20210512025608/http://its.svenss...

Decades later, somebody on HN with a sharper eye than I noticed that Vicki's nipples were clearly labeled "A" and "B". Go figure!

HN: Should computer scientists keep the Lena picture? (lemire.me)

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DonHopkins on Nov 10, 2017 | parent | context | favorite | on: Should computer scientists keep the Lena picture?

Does "AI:HUMOR;VICKI BODY" get grandfathered in, too?

NSFW: MS C0LLINS - 0UI - FEBRUARY 1973:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210512025608/http://its.svenss...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause

mercer on Nov 11, 2017 [–]

Is the nipples being marked 'A' and 'B' part of the joke?

DonHopkins on Nov 11, 2017 | parent [–]

As far as I know, those were not the points of the joke. I noticed them for the first time yesterday too, after not noticing them for decades!

As a teen, I'd printed it out, pinned it up on my wall next to the Cray-1 centerfold, and scribbled a bunch of modem phone numbers, user names and passwords all over it, and never even noticed.

I did a quick search for other A's and B's and found that it used those characters as much as any other character for shading, but that sure seems like something some mischievous student, lab member, turist or sentient TECO script at the MIT-AI Lab might have done.

There was no file security so anyone could have edited them in.

Maybe one of Minsky's grad students was performing some A/B testing or eye tracking experiments.

Somebody should ask RMS if EMACS had some special mode for editing line printer porn.

11. llsf+6r8[view] [source] 2025-01-02 05:09:07
>>Bluest+(OP)
The French minitel in mid-80s was successful also thanks to online porn. It was not using the internet (not TCP-IP network), but it was pushing the ASCII art to its limits :)

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-24-mn-718-st...

and it made some people rich https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/europe/le-monde-t...

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12. DonHop+yr8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 05:14:27
>>m3kw9+2r8
Then you would have loved the HyperCard Smut Stack, the first commercial HyperCard stack ever released!

I've begged Chuck to dig around to see if he has an old copy of the floppy lying around and upload it, but so far I don't know of a copy online you can run. Its bold pioneering balance of art and slease deserves preservation, and the story behind it is hilarious.

Edit: OMG I've just found the Geraldo episode with Chuck online, auspiciously titled "Geraldo: Sex in the 90's. From Computer Porn to Fax Foxes", which shows an example of Smut Stack:

https://visual-icon.com/lionsgate/detail/?id=67563&t=ts

>>22285675

DonHopkins on Feb 10, 2020 | parent | context | favorite | on: HyperCard: What Could Have Been (2002)

Do you have the first commercial HyperCard stack ever released: the HyperCard SmutStack? Or SmutStack II, the Carnal Knowledge Navigator, both by Chuck Farnham? SmutStack was the first commercial HyperCard product available at rollout, released two weeks before HyperCard went public at a MacWorld Expo, cost $15, and made a lot of money (according to Chuck). SmutStack 2, the Carnal Knowledge Navigator, had every type of sexual adventure you could imagine in it, including information about gays, lesbians, transgendered, HIV, safer sex, etc. Chuck was also the marketing guy for Mac Playmate, which got him on Geraldo, and sued by Playboy.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/could-the-ios-app-be-the-21st-...

>Smut Stack. One of the first commercial stacks available at the launch of HyperCard was Smut Stack, a hilarious collection (if you were in sixth grade) of somewhat naughty images that would make joke, present a popup image, or a fart sound when the viewer clicked on them. The author was Chuck Farnham of Chuck's Weird World fame.

>How did he do it? After all, HyperCard was a major secret down at Cupertino, even at that time before the wall of silence went up around Apple.

>It seems that Farnham was walking around the San Jose flea market in the spring of 1987 and spotted a couple of used Macs for sale. He was told that they were broken. Carting them home, he got them running and discovered several early builds of HyperCard as well as its programming environment. Fooling around with the program, he was able to build the Smut Stack, which sold out at the Boston Macworld Expo, being one of the only commercial stacks available at the show.

https://archive.org/stream/MacWorld_9008_August_1990/MacWorl...

Page 69 of https://archive.org/stream/MacWorld_9008_August_1990

>Famham's Choice

>This staunch defender was none other than Chuck Farnham, whom readers of this column will remember as the self-appointed gadfly known for rooting around in Apple’s trash cans. One of Farnham ’s myriad enterprises is Digital Deviations, whose products include the infamous SmutStack, the Carnal Knowledge Navigator, and the multiple-disk set Sounds of Susan. The last comes in two versions: a $15 disk of generic sex noises and, for $10 more, a personalized version in which the talented Susan moans and groans using your name. I am not making this up.

>Farnham is frank about his participation in the Macintosh smut trade. “The problem with porno is generic,” he says, sounding for the briefest moment like Oliver Wendell Holmes. “When you do it, you have to make a commitment ... say you did it and say it’s yours. Most people would not stand up in front of God and country and say, ‘It’s mine.’ I don’t mind being called Mr. Scum Bag.”

>On the other hand, he admits cheerily, “There’s a huge market for sex stuff.” This despite the lack of true eroticism. “It’s a novelty,” says Farnham. Sort of the software equivalent of those ballpoint pens with the picture of a woman with a disappearing bikini.

https://archive.org/stream/NewComputerExpress110/NewComputer...

Page 18 of https://archive.org/stream/NewComputerExpress110

>“Chuck developed the first commercial stack, the Smutstack, which was released two weeks before HyperCard went public at a MacWorld Expo. He’s embarrassed how much money a silly collection of sounds, cartoons, and scans of naked women brought in. His later version, the Carnal Knowledge Navigator, was also a hit.

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13. dualbo+Br8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 05:14:59
>>stephe+Wo8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
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14. builds+Ur8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 05:18:11
>>dualbo+Io8
Predates the internet, just like me. My mom was a high school math teacher, and was taking a COBOL class for her Masters at Hofstra University in 1977. I’m certain it was ‘77 because the Commodore PET had just released and she had one on home-loan that summer. One of my earliest memories is visiting the mainframe room, probably age 6-7, where the bearded sysadmin used a teletypewriter to print me a giant ascii art picture of Snoopy, standing in profile, on a green and white striped, tractor-fed paper. I’m sure the sysadmin had other interesting ascii art that was not appropriate to share with 7 year old.

Old man story over, but holy F, Hofstra is still teaching COBOL, wow?

https://www.hofstra.edu/academics/ce/professionaldevelopment...

22. califo+Lv8[view] [source] 2025-01-02 06:06:05
>>Bluest+(OP)
I wish the article mentioned Computer Nude (1967) by Ken Knowlton. It isn't ASCII, but it is a text mosaic. It was widely circulated at the time, was the first full frontal nude printed in The New York Times, and was somewhat important in the development of computer graphics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/24/technology/ken-knowlton-d...

37. rinceb+mD8[view] [source] 2025-01-02 07:48:15
>>Bluest+(OP)
I understand why, but still feel it's a missed opportunity, for them to have not referenced libcaca/aalib in the "for more information" sections.

https://aa-project.sourceforge.net/aalib/

http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca

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41. pastag+qG8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 08:37:10
>>califo+QB8
the Virtual terminal[1] from Asciinema[2] is what I use but that is a lot more difficult than just including a video of it. I got CMS from a very expensive CMS to support Asciinema but it was actually too much effort to be worth it I had to recompile some components make a editor interface etc etc.

[1]https://github.com/asciinema/avt

[2]https://docs.asciinema.org/how-it-works/

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48. hooli_+PN8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 10:15:10
>>califo+Lv8
https://archive.is/6RHVb
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49. califo+nO8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 10:21:20
>>pino82+FJ8
Check my earlier comment >>42572483
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50. 0xDEAD+nP8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 10:32:41
>>pastag+qG8
check out my website:

https://terminoid.com/discover/

i still need to add seeking and stuff, but it works. like asciinema but based on xterm.js

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60. Hilift+u09[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 12:56:04
>>dualbo+Io8
ARPANET was established in 1969. In 1966 Ken Knowles at Bell Labs created the "Computer Nude" which "by scanning a photograph with a camera and converting the analog voltages to binary numbers, which were assigned typographic symbols based on halftone densities. It was printed in The New York Times on October 11, 1967". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Knowlton
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69. ochris+I99[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 14:16:09
>>stephe+Wo8
Teletext is still used in several countries.

Also, I have seen ascii art on telex-type machines. These are limited by using only five bits, and so you can only use lowercase characters (or uppercase, but not both).

There are some examples here: http://artscene.textfiles.com/rtty/RTTYCOM/

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71. califo+Za9[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-02 14:25:47
>>diggan+y49
What do you mean? Add far as I know <code><pre> doesn't help with any of those?

Color is very much a part of ASCII art, if we consider ASCII to mean a broader range of different technologies. Just check the stuff in the article, or the stuff on https://16colo.rs/ site.

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