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OpenAI scrapped a promise to disclose key documents to the public

submitted by nickth+(OP) on 2024-01-24 19:21:11 | 614 points 300 comments
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6. slama+g4[view] [source] 2024-01-24 19:46:59
>>nickth+(OP)
https://archive.ph/QtCWM
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10. jefftk+m5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-24 19:54:26
>>pleasa+c3
They are still legally owned by a non-profit.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...

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74. crowcr+tm[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-24 21:36:13
>>JumpCr+Lg
[1] OpenAI’s Nonprofit received approximately $130.5 million in total donations, which funded the Nonprofit’s operations and its initial exploratory work in deep learning, safety, and alignment.

How many of those conventionally structured AI projects existed before ChatGPT?

Maybe the donations aren't the ONLY reason, maybe they could have done a normal rounding of funding and got here, but they didn't.

I do think it's fair to say that while they got $130m in donations they needed A LOT more money, and so they need to raise somewhere, somehow. To me it's a big gray area though.

[1] https://openai.com/our-structure

82. samsta+Lo[view] [source] 2024-01-24 21:52:00
>>nickth+(OP)
Has the following already been addressed, or even generally broached;

Treat AI (or AGI(?) more specifically) as global Utility which needs us to put ALL our Technology Points into the "Information Age Base Level 2" skill points and create a new manner in dealing with the next layer in Human Society, as is rapidly gestating. https://i.imgur.com/P1LBKFL.png

I feel this is different than what is meant by Alignment?

It seems as though general Humanity is not handling this well, but it appears that there is an F-ton of opaque behavior amongst the inner circle of the AI pyramid that we all will just be involuntarily entangled in?

I don't mean to sound bleak - just that feels as though that the reality coming down the conveyor....

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104. samsta+gw[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-24 22:35:29
>>trinsi+4h
Wow - I posted a very similar inquest:

https://news.ycombinator.com/edit?id=39123056

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Has the following already been addressed, or even generally broached;

Treat AI (or AGI(?) more specifically) as global Utility which needs us to put ALL our Technology Points into the "Information Age Base Level 2" skill points and create a new manner in dealing with the next layer in Human Society, as is rapidly gestating. https://i.imgur.com/P1LBKFL.png

I feel this is different than what is meant by Alignment?

It seems as though general Humanity is not handling this well, but it appears that there is an F-ton of opaque behavior amongst the inner circle of the AI pyramid that we all will just be involuntarily entangled in?

I don't mean to sound bleak - just that feels as though that the reality coming down the conveyor....

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105. samsta+Ew[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-24 22:37:50
>>JumpCr+Qh
Though, it should be argued that only the ignorant would believe that is not an historically significant inflection point in Nefariousness as it pertains to the next few fucking centuries.

So let the fleas look at their feet...

Seriously - AI isnt the demise if Humanity - greed.ai is.

EDIT:

I plugged in the following prompt to my local thingy... It spit this out:

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>>>P: "AI is not the demise of Humanity, greed.ai is. Show how greedy humans in charge of AI entanglements are holding the entire of earth." - https://i.imgur.com/OmGLYrj.jpg

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123. wewtyf+vJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-24 23:57:25
>>tptace+Rm
They were founded as a non-profit; https://openai.com/our-structure.
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136. colord+JO[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-25 00:34:55
>>trinsi+Rj
OpenAI Head of Research Tal Broda deleted over 80 tweets where he openly called for genocide in Gaza, asking to "finish them" including civilians [1] [2]. If this is who is at the helm of OpenAI, it's absolutely insane to not see how the type of informational power could have serious negative implications.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/18mvigw/openai_h...

[2] https://twitter.com/ArarMaher/status/1736519079102476766

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161. Andrex+w71[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-25 03:11:09
>>bane+Q31
See also this article on the failed social network Ello[1], which also proclaimed a lot of lofty things and also incorporated as a "Public Benefit Corporation."

1. >>39043871

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177. shagie+Ai1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-25 05:33:42
>>Respec+Wh
OSF predates it by almost four decades (even older than open source) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation
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183. bemuse+go1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-25 06:39:11
>>eastbo+vi1
Eh?

This didn’t happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_British_politi...

I think what you are referring to is the tory MPs who defied the government and voted with the opposition on a single vote.

At that time literally one of them permanently defected, very visibly crossing the floor. Many of the rest were booted out of the parliamentary party by Boris, only to be readmitted later (including my MP, who I do not vote for).

There were two or three who joined minor parties, and a handful ended up in the Lib Dems afterwards, but there was never a mass defection to the lib dems, who only have 15 MPs now; 15% of the 2019 Tories would be over 50.

Either way I think your summary misunderstands the reasons all of that happened, and the principles behind it.

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209. mrcode+PE1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-25 09:59:56
>>christ+BD1
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/self-dealing.asp

In lesser known places such as Wall St, practices like self dealing are considered illegal. In venture they’re often celebrated. Go figure.

I think there’s a general distaste towards setting up networks of companies B, C, D, planning to profit from a success of another company A where a single person controls all the companies and there’s a reasonable expectation of plans to divert business from A towards B, C, D.

I don’t know the details but there seems to be some gripe about it. I’m speculating.

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212. latexr+YH1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-25 10:30:01
>>christ+BD1
We can start with the crypto scam that he’s now trying to pivot to the AI space as the “solution” to the problem he created.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

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296. ben_w+uKb[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-28 15:33:15
>>wolver+O27
> They are not literal

For most, indeed. And that's good! But I have met people who claim to think they must be absolute truth, then put a huge asterisk around all the bits I point out and say those don't count for whatever reason.

There was a meme back in the UK, that amongst Anglicans, only extremists actually believe in God. No idea how true that is.

> Do you look for the worst paintings?

Only when they're put on a pedestal and held to be amazing. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kiss_(Klimt)

Widely regarded as beautiful and romantic. To me, it looks like the guy has a broken neck, and the woman has been decapitated at the base of her neck, her head rotated 90° and re-attached to her torso by the ear.

Likewise, movies. The plot holes in Independence Day annoyed me so much that when the sequel came out, I started (and still have not finished) writing a book that takes the opposite road with all the mistakes the film made.

So, while I've played the Eye Of Argon game, I never even tried to finish reading it once my friends and I stopped playing, and I've never bothered watching whatever the film is that has the line "you're tearing me apart Lisa".

> FWIW, that passage is part of all Abrahamic religions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shashthi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hera

I don't limit myself to just Abrahamic myth and legend :)

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