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HP's CEO spells it out: You're a 'bad investment' if you don't buy HP supplies

submitted by rntn+(OP) on 2024-01-19 20:37:31 | 115 points 157 comments
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29. vlovic+J4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 20:59:02
>>rickre+x2
My Brother laser printer sits in a corner unobtrusively (not on my desk). I don’t print enough these days to warrant the convenience it but the toner lasts forever and not needing to make a trip to print is really nice. I’m sure there are people who use inkjets for printing photographs or have lots of paper copies they need to make for whatever reason. Statistically, ~45% of Americans own a printer [1].

Be careful when you extrapolate your own personal habits onto broader market trends.

HP by itself still brings in $18B per year in printer revenue [2].

[1] https://www.statista.com/forecasts/1247076/consumer-electron...

[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/274447/hewlett-packards-...

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30. DrNosf+Y4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:00:21
>>jawns+13
Really cool printer feature search / database:

https://www.druckerchannel.de/

(google translate, or a equivalent, might be handy)

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44. jmisav+k6[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:06:39
>>jzb+C5
Newer Brothers printers are starting to do the same tricks.

>>31860131

46. jdietr+M6[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:09:29
>>rntn+(OP)
Meanwhile, Epson will sell you a printer that just takes ink. Not cartridges, just ink. From a bottle. They aren't particularly cheap, but that's the deal.

https://epson.com/ecotank-ink-tank-printers

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64. freeop+3a[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:26:34
>>Wowfun+b6
Is https://www.brother-usa.com/products/hll3280cdw too big? I wouldn't call it huge, but color lasers do require more physical space. Still, this seems to be in the range of most inkjets...
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114. qwerty+3k[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 22:15:06
>>imglor+Yg
Obviously. But I will avoid these at all cost. I mean it - all cost. I hope some investor's minds will click at this and offer me an expensive bullshit-free widget.

Apparently I'm not alone wanting it. I have little idea of the market potential but I believe there is some.

Apparently there are at least some investors and makers who believe the same. For example this is how they market Matic[1] (a cloud-free smart vacuum robot). Which I'm probably going to buy (unless I discover it's not bullshit-free enough) although it's expensive. I still have no robot vacuum just because every not-horribly-dumb model depends on a cloud (even though they don't have to - some are possible to uncloud but I have no time for this).

The same applies to social networks etc - they try to reach every person in the world by offering free service at a cost of the user being made a product. Let me pay money but respect me as a customer, not a zombie.

[1] https://maticrobots.com/

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116. Wowfun+6l[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 22:20:20
>>freeop+3a
I'd say that's too big, yes. You can get some much smaller inkjets, for example: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/canon-pixma-tr150-wireless-inkj...
118. jaunty+vn[view] [source] 2024-01-19 22:31:54
>>rntn+(OP)
Thankfully there are some folks making nice good cost-effective printers too.

Way higher tier item, but... Epson's EcoTank 8550 has gotten pretty glowing reviews. Very very low per-page count. Too early to tell about long term reliability, but looking ok so far! A randomly selected review: https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2022/10/12/epson-ecota...

I'd been interested in getting something big & expensive like a Canon Pro-1000 but knowing the per page price was also going to be considerable, even more so if you aren't using it constantly (it periodically cleans itself)... It was hard to justify. I haven't bought the ET-8550 yet but the idea has stayed on my mind.

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131. whyoh+Nw[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 23:26:59
>>charli+r8
Set up automatic periodic printing (every 2 weeks or so). With something like this, for example: https://www.finnie.org/2018/10/24/cmyk-printer-line-test-she...
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141. joseph+4P[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 02:08:46
>>dpkono+iF
Here's someone else who just yesterday mentioned it happening: >>39045792
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146. willci+we1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 07:48:31
>>a_wild+w8
> refused to print my black-and-white document unless I refilled its magenta or whatever

Can't have you printing anonymously

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

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