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X Purges Prominent Journalists, Leftists with No Explanation

submitted by greeni+(OP) on 2024-01-09 16:07:37 | 141 points 84 comments
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4. toomuc+S1[view] [source] 2024-01-09 16:16:24
>>greeni+(OP)
https://web.archive.org/web/20240109154748/https://www.vice....

https://archive.today/lvZbT

10. paxys+25[view] [source] 2024-01-09 16:29:11
>>greeni+(OP)
This has been happening since the day Musk took over Twitter (here's one from December 2022 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/15/technology/twitter-suspen...). There are always people (including a large chunk on HN itself) who will come up with more and more elaborate excuses for his purges and maintain that he is all about free speech and neutrality. I'm sure same will happen for this one.

Edit: as expected, this post has been flagged.

14. lreeve+a6[view] [source] 2024-01-09 16:33:32
>>greeni+(OP)
There's a theory that it's a bunch of bans for anyone critical lately of Bill Ackman - see https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1744724937313837177
15. themus+m6[view] [source] 2024-01-09 16:34:18
>>greeni+(OP)
They should have left for the fediverse long ago. http://b4hntuy3fimfh2227vf4f74emnya7p35i5brtqujs6leqvtclfwvj...
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25. mobius+c8[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-09 16:41:39
>>lreeve+a6
I was going to ask who Ackman was (yeah, I don't keep up with the twitterati) and I find he's someone who fits with Elon very well: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/jan/03/bill-ackma...
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29. jcranm+b9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-09 16:45:31
>>bedige+F
If you fear the consequences of your speech, then you are likely to self-censor, and (one can argue) you no longer have free speech. This is the argument that "Free Speech Absolutists" tend to use to justify trying to protect people from the consequences of their speech... which necessarily infringes on others' speech.

You fundamentally cannot enable people to speak without fear without infringing others' right to speak freely. In the context of a government, it is possible (only very barely, and frequently governments are unable to rise to this level) to create systems that punishes neither party and exit any and all attempts at moderation. But when you are running a social media site, this isn't a feasible option, and trying to punish people who are causing fear and limiting free speech will only cause the next wave of free speech sites to arise. Techdirt has a nice article on speedrunning content moderation: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you...

Is it a rhetorical sham? Not necessarily, in the sense that I think its proponents could very well believe in what they say. But it is a belief whose consequences hasn't been fully thought-through, and I can't see anyone who still hews to that belief after fully thinking it through.

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51. kypro+vh[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-09 17:18:52
>>tensor+D8
Looks like they're all unsuspended now, https://twitter.com/stevanzetti

Was Elon just messing with them, or was it perhaps as I suggested and just a mistake? Will you reconsider, or are you unable to accept this as a possibility?

For what it's worth I think Elon was mismanaging Twitter so I have no interest in defending him. But equally I think the idea that he's sat around randomly suspending "left-wing" journalists is kinda silly.

I don't know why this is the case, but Twitter seems to trigger suspensions quite frequently. They seemed to have tightened their spam / abuse algorithms in recent months, but the pattern as of late is that that most genuine users who get suspended are reinstated on appeal.

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57. fuzzba+Jp[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-09 17:51:41
>>TheAce+qd
It seems like the CTO was made aware of the situation and 15 minutes later the accounts were un-suspended. [1] https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1744766353494376749 Probably some automated system or mass report (speculating, of course).
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