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So by this logic if the supermarket increased the price of bananas beyond a certain arbitrary threshold you set it becomes okay to steal them? As opposed to, shopping elsewhere, or not eating bananas.

>>wannac+(OP)
I would get the free, cloned, indistinguishable bananas from the dodgy guy in the alley beside the supermarket.

>>wannac+(OP)
No. Because pirating media is no where equivalent to stealing bananas.

Stealing a banana deprives the store of the banana and the revenue from the sale of the banana.

Pirating media does not deprive anyone of anything. And no, pirated media does not equal lost sale. It does not remove the media from the streaming site nor does it prevent the streaming site from profiting from the piece of media.

People need to stop making this analogy as is does not work for digital media.

>>hightr+03
Sorry, can you provide a link to the official list of things that are okay to steal?

Are taxes and parking tickets on the list? I feel like I shouldn't have to pay those.

> Pirating media does not deprive anyone of anything. And no, pirated media does not equal lost sale.

What about software? Should we not have to pay for that either? What about the software you make a living writing? Is that exempt from the list?

>>wannac+z3
Pirating media is not stealing.

>>wannac+z3
When you read a free book at the public library instead of paying the publisher for it, are you stealing?

>>travoc+35
Your taxes fund the library and the expenses necessary to loan you the book. You need a library card before they'll loan you the book which is given out only to people who pay taxes in that district. The card is your authorization just like a license for software or other copyrighted works.

If I, a stranger, took your car out of your driveway without permission, is it stealing if I promised to return it?

>>wannac+A5
I'm not really sure where you're going with the "is it stealing if I take your car without permission" line, I don't think it really works here (or maybe I'm missing what you're meaning here).

A good example of where the lines of "stealing" are blurry could be this: A friend of yours has a login to Amazon Prime, and gives you the login credentials, which let you watch a show you would have otherwise had to pay for or somehow acquire. Is this stealing? Similarly, if you go to a public library in a city you don't live in, with a card of a friend's, and check out a book, is it stealing?

>>wannac+z3
To your edit, I’m not claiming that piracy is good or a moral right. Nor am I claiming that it is legal.

Yes. People should pay for both software and media. But piracy is not stealing regardless.

>>wannac+A5
If I, a stranger, made an exact copy of your car in your driveway without permission, is it stealing at all?

>>wannac+(OP)
> elsewhere, or not eating bananas.

if you could copy bananas without effort you would get rid of the hunger across the World and then get the Nobel Peace Prize

>>wannac+z3
> Should we not have to pay for that either?

We should. Also The Software should be Free to copy, modify, sell the changes, use it however we like and give the same rights to others!

>>wannac+(OP)
If someone takes a banana, that's less bananas for the next person who comes along.

If someone takes a movie or show episode, there's plenty for anyone who comes after them.

Meanwhile, if the store starts running a scam after ruining the market for bananas, yeah -they fucked me over so fuck them too.