>>himara+(OP)
“Interim CEO Mira Murati plans to rehire Sam and Greg, and is in talks with board rep Adam D’Angelo to do so (in what capacity is not yet finalized). However, concurrently, the OpenAI board is looking to hire its own CEO, and has reached out to two candidates that we’ve spoken to, both prominent execs”

https://x.com/emilychangtv/status/1726457543629914389?s=46

I can’t imagine why any CEO would want to take the job and be Sam’s boss. There’s no way that goes well.

>>himara+(OP)
https://archive.is/ZKvDe

>>himara+(OP)
Proves the board just wanted power, and only power.

All of the engineers, Sam, and Greg are probably entirely reasonable. If you really wanted to ensure safety like it always has been, you can express your concerns and get basically what you wanted.

They will pay up the bill: https://openai.com/blog/introducing-superalignment

If you disagreed on what would lead to AGI, LLM vs more components, then you can just see it play out. Same thing as the specific transformer being a light at the end of the tunnel that OpenAI pivoted to, the researchers will find what makes the AI more intelligent over time.

Only if you wanted to entirely stop the AI development would this occur for you to do. But this is probably a minimal goal if you are a researcher, you want to keep researching. Instead, only if you wanted to stop OPENAI's AI, would you do this.

At the end of the day, the board probably was a conflict of interest, and had no real concerns. Power grab 101.

>>jondwi+z1
That you can charge people to use, literally almost exactly what GPTs are (minus that those are supposed to be a revenue share from ChatGPT Plus subscribers).

https://poe.com/earnings_tos

>>himara+(OP)
It seems like a mess -- but what would you do if you were on the board of a nonprofit that believes it's developing the world's most important technology, and you conclude that the CEO is lying to you and/or violating the charter? I don't know if there are any good options.

Paul Graham says Sam is "extremely good at becoming powerful", "you could parachute him into an island of cannibals and come back in 5 years and he'd be the king". I don't understand why I'm supposed to support a machiavellian power-seeker to develop the world's most important technology. I just hope he doesn't slip ice-nine into my food after I publish this comment: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-ma...

Edit: I suspect the mods of Hacker News downranked this comment, it's voted to +15 points but sits near the bottom of the page... Maybe try not to be quite so cartoonishly evil guys?

>>himara+(OP)
Information just reported this:

Breaking: Sam Altman Will Not Return as CEO of OpenAI

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/breaking-sam-altman-...

>>aidama+s1
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

>>peyton+22
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

You've been on HN for many years and we're certainly glad to have you - we just need comments to be more thoughtful/substantive and a little less reactive. I hope that makes sense.

>>reduce+e4
> My understanding is that Sam is in shock.

https://twitter.com/emilychangtv/status/1726468006786859101?...

>>0xDEAF+03
hmm, interesting, I couldn't find that "parachute him..." part of the quote in any archived version of the article.

Oh, I see, it was here: http://paulgraham.com/fundraising.html

>>consum+U4
https://paulgraham.com/fundraising.html

>>reduce+e4
Technically Sam is too, he signed this letter: https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk

>>hindsi+q1
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

>>dang+k8
dang can you tell me if this comment I wrote was downranked by a mod? >>38342452

>>0xDEAF+Wf
I'm sorry! It was indeed downweighted, though not by a mod - there are other ways that that can happen.

I'm not sure why I thought otherwise—it's possible that I didn't look at the correct comment, or possibly I looked at it before it got downweighted, though neither of those seem likely. In any case, I definitely don't want to give you, or any user, inaccurate information and I'm sorry about that.

As for the comment itself, I don't think it was terribly good for HN—it was more on the snark/fulmination/flamewar side of the ledger, rather than the curious conversation we're looking for, as described at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. If I had seen it I might have downweighted it too, though probably not as much.