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Mazda's DMCA takedown kills a hobbyist's smart car API tool

submitted by DamonH+(OP) on 2023-10-17 21:08:15 | 83 points 27 comments
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4. gruez+nl[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-17 23:26:26
>>incaho+de
>The untold amounts of complaints just on the software from various auto manufacturers is incredibly concerning to the point that I soon drive a car from the 90s into dust before I attempt to drive something with a lagging interface, or a complete screen failure leaving the car inoperable.

I think all the negative online comments have clouded your perception of modern cars. The toyota rav4 is the best selling non-truck in the US in 2023. If you check their interior shot[1], there's a screen but all the essential functions have physical controls. The only reason you'd need to use the screen is if you want to access the built in navigation system or radio, but you were probably going to use google maps and spotify anyways. Meanwhile you get all the features that "a car from the 90s" doesn't have: rear camera, adaptive cruise control, parking sensors, automatic breaking, lane departure warnings, blind spot monitoring, and better fuel economy.

[1] https://www.toyota.com/rav4/photo-gallery/section/interior/s...

5. chmod7+Ot[view] [source] 2023-10-18 00:30:37
>>DamonH+(OP)
It's always peak comedy when a company goes out of its way to shut down someone laboring to improve their products for free, in the process making their customer's experience worse and likely angering those customers.

Stabbing yourself with a flourish and a bow.

What sort of attitudes are off the leash, causing this, is never hard to imagine.

User arathol on mazda3revolution.com has some interesting tidbits:

> Mazda has been doing this for some time now with all their software, at least since 2017 when they issued new infotainment software to block the AIO tweaks and warnings about modifying their software. I don't think this is entirely from Mazda though. The .502 software was more about Johnson Controls, the developers of the software, having fits about people monkeying around with something that they considered proprietary.

https://www.mazda3revolution.com/threads/mazda-dmca-takedown...

I wonder who the developers of this particular software are.

7. wrboyc+vz[view] [source] 2023-10-18 01:18:07
>>DamonH+(OP)
Previously discussed: >>37874220
13. squigz+t11[view] [source] 2023-10-18 06:48:15
>>DamonH+(OP)
Here's the code - https://web.archive.org/web/20230310065424/https://github.co...
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17. greyfa+Lp1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-18 10:58:51
>>sdflha+Uh1
> Is there anything that average folk can do against these notices when they're sent to companies like GitHub?

They can file a counter-notice, commit to accepting service of process if the other party wants to sue, and wait 10-14 days. There's a guide at https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-polic... and there are plenty of example counter-notices in the https://github.com/github/dmca repo.

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23. mdanie+i43[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-18 19:16:34
>>chmod7+Ot
> It's always peak comedy when a company goes out of its way to shut down someone laboring to improve their products for free, in the process making their customer's experience worse and likely angering those customers.

Relevant: >>37912861

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24. mdanie+C53[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-18 19:21:37
>>theyee+Al1
I thought those DMCA nukes usually take down the forks, but it seems not this time: (e.g.) https://github.com/bdraco/home-assistant/tree/dev/homeassist...
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25. incaho+Do6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-19 17:55:37
>>gruez+nl
That's for now, I think only a handful of autos still have physical controls but every year that number shrinks...

SavageGeese on YT specifically points this out, and actually had a really great video on this very subject.

>Better fuel economy

Debatable, incredibly so. Vehicles have only gotten larger to side step the federal MPG mandate, so whilst it appears they're getting better gas mileage the reality is we've been stagnate since the 90s, per the UM report below.

http://websites.umich.edu/~umtriswt/PDF/SWT-2017-5.pdf

We could argue over emissions standards being much more stringent (and they have), but auto makers have sought to only embrace larger vehicles in lieu of proper fuel efficient development of ICE automobiles. Hybrids seem to be a stop gap, but R&D appears to have ceased on ICE in favor of EV.

Currently I'm car-free, I was an auto enthusiast (built plenty of different cars) and what I see on the road currently only reinforces the idea that rather than build a better car, automakers seek to only build them larger and more reliant on technology that trails smart tech by 15 years. In the meantime, I'll keep riding motorcycles (not perfect either) and bicycles.

I will say Ford releasing the Maverick was a bit of a wake up call that folks still want a truck, but not truck sized, and not getting truck MPGs.

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