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Hamas Got Around Israel's Surveillance Prowess by Going Dark

submitted by johntf+(OP) on 2023-10-17 03:17:39 | 23 points 36 comments
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10. k310+19[view] [source] 2023-10-17 04:41:02
>>johntf+(OP)
Axios says that "judicial overhaul" and the resulting turmoil helped weaken Israel's military.

Axios reports

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/07/hamas-attack-invasion-israe...

The big picture:

The attack comes amid a deep political crisis in Israel over the Netanyahu government's judicial overhaul, which has weakened the country's military, economy and society.

Links to:

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/24/israel-judicial-overhaul-re...

Why it matters:

The plan, which will weaken the Supreme Court and other democratic institutions, has faced opposition from some of Israel's closest allies, including the Biden administration, and it has already destabilized the country's economy and military.

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Of course, "helps" is a weasel word, but it must be a contributing factor.

Turmoil never helps.

11. ThePow+39[view] [source] 2023-10-17 04:41:17
>>johntf+(OP)
https://archive.li/qV3pW
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16. ars+3g[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-17 05:58:26
>>karmak+Xd
This is getting quite offtopic, but if Palestinians weren't going to accept the Olmert Peace plan (map visible here: http://www.passia.org/maps/view/78 ) then there's nothing they would accept.
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21. karmak+zi[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-17 06:23:53
>>ars+3g
I'm sure it's a bit more complicated than that. But hey, let's geek out a bit more on the surveillance/civilian murdering technology!

Edit: just read the Wikipedia article about the plan. It, indeed, is more complicated than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realignment_plan

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33. candio+II1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-17 15:34:23
>>Woodi+Nu1
Hamas is a business model. Dead Palestinian civilians for money. So, first, of course, all Palestinians are civilian. And every Palestinian corpse is at least 10 dead people. Also there are no fighters. Of course, this is lying, but is perhaps the least problematic of their behaviors.

That's the business model: dead civilians for money from extremists and states.

So right now they're doing everything they possibly can, from firing rockets at an overwhelming military force, in an attempt to anger them, to force Palestinian civilians to stay in locations being bombed, to killing Palestinians themselves.

As a result: Hamas is not very popular in Palestine ... of course. I get that everyone claims the opposite, but most people are sane. If you try to kill them or try to force them to die ... you're going to lose a bit of popularity.

They came to power with a massacre. Yes, they won elections, but that didn't mean the Palestinian Authority gave them all control. It just gave them seats in the legislative council. They immediately killed people until they were the only one left, which Fatah tried to prevent. Needless to say, this is NOT what Palestinians voted for. Since then it hasn't really been any different, ever. There's movies of Hamas throwing civil servants of buildings.

It's very likely that even after Last week's attacks Hamas has still killed more Palestinians than Israeli.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28896346

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-condemns-6-informants-fo...

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