>>andyly+(OP)
If anyone wants to see what the integration used to do: https://web.archive.org/web/20230728021205/https://www.home-...

>>darkr+ic
Even view-source is considered "hacking" and you might easily end up in jail if some dumb judge/prosecutor decides so.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/15/missouri_html_hacking...

>>sp1rit+pe
If it's HTTPS stuff, they might be claiming that it falls under DMCA 1201 shenanigans.

> (A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

As I understand it, car manufacturers prevent independent repair shops from lawfully obtaining some of the diagnostics information in the onboard computer by encrypting it with a key that sits on the very same drive. Said encryption is the "technological measure that effectively controls access" and using the key to decrypt it is "circumvention" -- naturally, of the "effective" access control.

(https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?def_id=17... to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner)

Mazda might be interpreting the SSL certificate as a similar measure and therefore use of the certificate to decrypt traffic as a similar violation.

>>lcnPyl+zg
From the posted notice[1], they answered "No" to the question "Do you claim to have any technological measures in place to control access to your copyrighted content? Please see our Complaints about Anti-Circumvention Technology if you are unsure." Is that the same thing you are referencing?

[1] https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2023/10/2023-10-1...

>>gonzal+kf
Here's a really fun one from yesterday's 'midwit' thread:

> I have somehow automated some lights to come on too early in the morning but the specific task/automation I set to do this is nowhere to be found.. I can create and remove new tasks but I'm being haunted by this old task.

Do you have an attached garage? How about if it gets turned on with the door closed at 4am after a daylight savings changeover gone horribly wrong. I enjoy my home assistant but I wouldn't let it control something that can gas me. I've seen way too much weird shit in my iot network to ever trust it with that.

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>>london+qm
Man, I live in snow country and every year someone gets killed idling in the winter. Kids idling and hanging out or someone parked eating their lunch. It's true that CO emissions are way down since the mid-aughts rules went in, but it isn't 0 ppm.

The last go-around about the keyless ignitions was kicked off by a 2017 toyota. The story was from 2019

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/28/business/keyless-carbon-m...

>>bastar+xm
They should buy a Tesla, as they support their API as a first class citizen in the ecosystem.

https://www.tesla.com/developer-docs

https://electrek.co/2023/10/12/tesla-releases-official-api-d...

>>andyly+(OP)
Just in case anyone else would like to send a quick note to Mazda:

https://webpage.mazdausa.com/MazdaStatic/contactus.action

>>ChuckM+T7
Eric von Hippel at MIT has written a bunch of business-oriented research along these lines (related to "user innovation").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_von_Hippel

>>andyly+(OP)
Mazda isn't the first car company to abuse DMCA takedowns: https://github.com/toyotha/toyota-na

>>andyly+(OP)
Gosh, it's a good thing for Mazda that this code wasn't open source or anything... https://web.archive.org/web/20230310065424/https://github.co...

Code not being hosted on Github != it being unavailable

>>atesti+861
https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/6f/39/148a82a2f38cf7...

https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/c8/98/6da75ea926e4b3...