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Watch TV from the 90s and earlier

submitted by thunde+(OP) on 2023-07-28 12:46:19 | 653 points 256 comments
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2. beltha+an[view] [source] 2023-07-28 14:39:14
>>thunde+(OP)
I'd also recommend Toonami Aftermath. It has a bunch of shows from the mid 90s to the mid 00s. The Saturday morning line up is really great.

https://www.toonamiaftermath.com/schedule

You can also get it running in Plex (requires Plex pass) with these two projects:

https://github.com/chris102994/docker-toonamiaftermath

https://github.com/xteve-project/xTeVe

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5. op00to+Jv[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 15:12:58
>>Albert+au
You do not need to spend $100. You do not need to spend $1 if you have some scrap laying around. TV antennas are super easy to build!

http://users.wfu.edu/matthews/misc/dipole.html https://www.w9dup.org/technet_files/folded_dipoles_vhf_uhf_y...

9. jslakr+4D[view] [source] 2023-07-28 15:35:56
>>thunde+(OP)
I recommend this stream, a 24/7 curated list of retro TV: https://www.twitch.tv/oldtimeycomputershow
27. G3rn0t+yL[view] [source] 2023-07-28 16:07:42
>>thunde+(OP)
If you are on the road and only have limited mobile bandwidth available you can instead read entire Seinfeld episodes:

https://www.seinfeldscripts.com/seinfeld-scripts.html

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38. boombo+uR[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 16:29:17
>>guestb+MK
Not really. Hoarders were already mass recording TV from home, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Stokes

Recording ~5 hours of television a night would have been a trivial cost for a network like NBC. Particularly compared to the licensing fees those hours would have had.

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55. beltha+B21[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 17:11:51
>>noneth+WZ
I linked directly to the schedule. Go to the home page to see the video.

https://www.toonamiaftermath.com

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56. sergio+D21[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 17:12:02
>>noneth+WZ
Use the homepage https://www.toonamiaftermath.com/
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62. Apocry+s51[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 17:24:46
>>erickh+1K
A good video about how that came to be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd1gqLVHZWo

108. 1lette+lx1[view] [source] 2023-07-28 19:22:46
>>thunde+(OP)
Yeap, pretty much. It doesn't recreate the difficult-to-move "thunk" of TVs without remotes with separate VHF (2-14) and UHF (15-36,38-69) controls.

- Married with Children

- The Simpsons

- Fresh Prince of Bel Air

- SNL

- Airwolf

- Knight Rider

- The A-Team

It doesn't recreate standing and pointing in just right pose adjusting rabbit ears. They were impossible to tune them because touching them changes their parameters greatly. Some people put aluminum foil balls on the ends.

Many older TVs supported NTSC UHF (OTA) channels up to 83 and beyond, but the maximum channel was 69 because 70–83 were reallocated in 1983.

To hookup a Nintendo or Atari (NTSC) to an older TV, a box like this would be needed to switch between the console and the OTA antenna.[0] Some of them included an additional switch to select either channels 2 or 3. In the transition to coax, sometimes they would have or need a push on matching transformer to work with newer TVs. Nintendo released (included?) a coax-only auto switch.

0. https://www.vintagecomputing.com/wp-content/tvswitch_2_large...

120. snake_+cC1[view] [source] 2023-07-28 19:43:49
>>thunde+(OP)
This is incredible! How does it work?

Kevin Harlan's voice sounds EXACTLY the same:

https://my90stv.com/#0-fAbPN9CgM

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123. Thinki+1D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 19:46:43
>>SoftTa+AN
There were some exceptions, though, as the VHF TV channels aren't all contiguous. In North America, there's a gap between channels 4 and 5; and channels 6 and 7 are separated by the bands for several radio services (FM, aviation, amateur, and marine).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/VHF_Usag...

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124. krapp+bE1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 19:52:31
>>tgv+SU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_transmission

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_television

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144. PopAlo+MM1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 20:31:48
>>erickh+1K
Reality TV and game shows are two different things. MTV's first game show (and first non-music programming) was "Remote Control" begun in the late 1980s.[1]

I used to watch regularly -- funny how I remembered the names of Colin Quinn and Kari Wuhrer, but couldn't remember the host's name without looking it up.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Control_(game_show)

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151. jzb+LP1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 20:46:23
>>tivert+Rq1
Perhaps this will help, there's a video demonstrating a UHF device where they switch channels to show the device output: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtRI-_A1j8

It doesn't quite show static the way the website does, but it's also not exactly what I'd call "near instantaneous."

154. anjel+6S1[view] [source] 2023-07-28 20:57:36
>>thunde+(OP)
For those left wanting for demographic attraction:

https://my50stv.com/

https://my60stv.com/

https://my50stv.com/

https://my70stv.com/

https://my80stv.com/

https://my00stv.com/

https://my10stv better known as Youtube.com

https://my20stv better known as TikTok.com

There is no https://my40stv but there should be.

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165. tivert+uX1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 21:24:00
>>jzb+LP1
> It doesn't quite show static the way the website does, but it's also not exactly what I'd call "near instantaneous."

I think that effect might be exaggerated because he's tuning across several channels in one turn (e.g. https://youtu.be/ahtRI-_A1j8?t=88) and those channels would be full of static. The device he's showing apparently spaces out its transmissions 4 channels apart.

What I meant by "near instantaneous" was that the delays were short enough that I don't recall registering them as "I'm waiting for this," and when started I using digital TVs I registered the channel-switch speed as a noticeable and annoying regression.

I guess my point is the simulation has a digitally-slow pause with static, which seems like anachronism with a coat of retro-colored paint. I may have overstated things, because I mainly watched TV after the dial era (and the 90s were definitely after the dial era).

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206. monocu+6A2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-29 01:48:55
>>rkuyke+1s2
Channels has this feature (“Virtual Channels”): https://getchannels.com/library/
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213. JKCalh+KG2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-29 02:54:14
>>xp84+Dw2
I've got one of these projects. It's written in Python and buggy as hell (so I have kept the repo private until I have something others will enjoy).

The "schedule" is JSON, so it was easy enough to write a web page that parses today's schedule and presents it TV-Guide style: https://engineersneedart.com/UHF/

(Gaps in airtime are filled with shorts of various kinds.)

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218. rubyma+kO2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-29 04:13:19
>>rkuyke+1s2
I highly recommend ExpTV for this:

https://exptv.org

It spans the vhs era, curated by hand to flip through different oddities and ephemera.

No tracking, no algorithms, just a stream of fun wierdness. It even has a TV guide type thing so you can pick when to tune in.

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222. goarch+KQ2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-29 04:36:09
>>rkuyke+es2
Dizquetv is the one and only that I’ve tried so far to be honest, but it just worked exactly how I was hoping right from the start.

https://github.com/vexorian/dizquetv

223. aledal+9R2[view] [source] 2023-07-29 04:39:59
>>thunde+(OP)
LOL look at this IBM beast https://my90stv.com/#jV2O9_xNsX8

Loving this project btw, so much nostalgia

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237. aix1+Qr3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-29 11:47:39
>>tenebr+3m2
Worth noting that, in some countries, TV guides published numeric codes for each programme. These codes could be punched directly into a video recorder to set up a recording (instead of having to manually select the channel, the date and the start/end times).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_recorder_scheduling_co...

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242. Leonar+mN3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-29 14:24:00
>>awiese+4f3
I've been working on it for about a year. At the moment it exists as a git repo (as you say), but for it to be of use you need at the very least the corresponding SqliteDB (~70MB) and to be really fun (and work with the frontend) you need the listing pages themselves (high res and ~50GB), neither of which is in the git repo, I keep them separate.

If you message me privately I'd be happy to share the data. The git repos are:

https://github.com/patsmad/nyt-listings https://github.com/patsmad/nyt-listings-app

I use them for curation at the moment so the READMEs leave ... something to be desired. I hope by the end of August to have a read-only version up and running, although without a wikipedia-like effort I don't see how I would curate it fully so it'll probably always be a little touch and go as to what data is available.

The stats I have from curating are: 369345 individual movie "listing boxes" (I would guess around 98% accuracy, although if I were to field a guess the actual number there should be is probably 400K) of which 321308 are matched to a movie, and 296941 of those are for sure unique. And overall 202203 have channel + time + duration matched up using the VCR listings (which the New York Times conveniently published from around November 20th 1990, and the internet archive very nicely has the program the VCRs used to encode/decode those codes). There are 21530 unique movies at the moment.

If I understand the New York Times correctly, then none of this can be commercialized since I scraped the core data (the pages themselves) from the TimesMachine, so this really is a personal project, which I'm happy to share. I've made a few Letterboxd lists from the corresponding data, for example a series of lists with all of the movies (and play times) for films playing on September 1 in particular e.g. https://letterboxd.com/patsmad/list/television-films-septemb... It is rather consistent, around 100 films a day, for 1990-1999 it was 106, 118, 74, 74, 89, 99, 98, 110, 97, 93. As is obvious I can talk about this for days.

I'm not sure the best way to do private messages, my email is associated with this account, but I have no idea if you can see that. I usually just lurk on HN.

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246. anjel+9q4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-29 18:23:59
>>Shawnj+OE2
LMGTFY: The 1940s were the true beginning of the TV era. Although sets had been available as early as the late 1930s, the widespread distribution and sale of TV sets did not really take off until after the war. Broadcasting stations neglected many of their radio stations and poured money into TV after the war.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/culture-magazines/1940s... https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=broadcast+television+in+the...

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254. Leonar+Vd9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-31 12:16:50
>>NoMore+Gr8
Actually I had a bit of a brain fart, it is actually 21K, not 26K so a bit less.

There is at least 100 different films from every year from 1931 to 1999 it looks like (obviously many more from the 80s and 90s). But even just considering that, that's 7K as an absolute minimum. With straight-to-video and TV films the 90s peaked with ~850 unique films from 1995 alone playing on television. And to just give an idea of the level of obscurity, the median IMDb vote count for 1995 is 500, so half are on the level of something like https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0122968/ (which yes, played 7 times, mostly on TMC in March of 1996). Also once you get very obscure things get all muddled. Like with https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112363/ which is marked as 1995 but certainly appears to have played once on television in 1991 so IMDb is wrong in this case. And of course there are a number of mistakes due to titles matching which I'm slowly correcting.

There are some caveats. This guy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0222755/, played 6 times, but on channel 41 (which at the time was Spanish language maybe?), so it has 0 votes on IMDb, but played 6 times on television, which is odd but not unheard of. But you do have to consider that this is using a slightly larger range of channels (some specific to the New York region, like CUNY and MSG) than one might expect. I would guess though that maybe 40% of films play on TCM, SHO, MAX, or HBO ultimately though. Most channels didn't play movies ever outside of primetime.

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