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Daniel Micay publicly steps down from GrapheneOS

submitted by joemaz+(OP) on 2023-05-26 20:23:59 | 75 points 68 comments
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1. dingus+o5[view] [source] 2023-05-26 20:59:15
>>joemaz+(OP)
Please don't tell me we're having a CopperheadOS repeat. Not a lot of info is provided, so it's got me slightly worried.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CopperheadOS#License_change_an...

2. sreman+a6[view] [source] 2023-05-26 21:04:03
>>joemaz+(OP)
I am not sure, but some context about Daniel's failings in communication may have contributed. The following is link to Louis Rossmann's video about his interaction with Daniel published today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0

This is speculation of course on my part and I do not have any evidence connecting the video with the event itself.

8. buzzy_+ac[view] [source] 2023-05-26 21:43:06
>>joemaz+(OP)
Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1662212227561308160?c...
9. JackGr+cc[view] [source] 2023-05-26 21:43:14
>>joemaz+(OP)
A statement from the man himself:

https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1662212227561308160

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13. danjor+Ad[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 21:54:26
>>JackGr+cc
https://grapheneos.social/@DanielMicay

He is also posting the same to his Mastadon

25. joemaz+rm[view] [source] 2023-05-26 23:07:14
>>joemaz+(OP)
I completely understand where Louis Rossman is coming from. [1]

Daniel does not apologize for anything he says or does and refuses to acknowledge any wrongdoing. He still refuses to acknowledge that how he responded to Louis was wrong.

He hops on every thread of GrapheneOS and regularly accuses everyone of being sockpuppets and trolls. [2] He has accused me of being a Techlore and CalyxOS troll numerous times. Worst still, his community are full of psychophants that enable his abusive behavior. They refuse to see him or his outbursts as negative. They routinely collaborate to downvote comments and raid rooms to manage the narrative which I find to be underhanded.

I was an early Copperhead customer who was very disappointed that he got up and destroyed the signing keys without providing any evidence to back his claims up. When I brought up the issue to him via email, his response was to throw his previous business partner under the bus without offering any apologies for damaging my business.

I did use Android Hardening afterwards, used CopperheadOS for a bit and then moved back to LineageOS. I refuse to use any of his projects again.

I wish the best for him and hope he gets well. He's not mentally stable enough to run a project and he has a long way to go for understanding the nuance of interpersonal relationships.

1 - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0

2 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33555221

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47. tinus_+Mg1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-27 12:00:14
>>joemaz+rm
FYI where you type psychophants you mean sycophants.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sycophancy

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58. sendfo+1n2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-27 20:55:55
>>RealSt+Ei1
The saga started way back with the Copperhead OS situation [1]. I believe Daniel has never been able to work through that breach of trust, and that has bled out into his behavior online and the real world.

Note it's very hard to find mainstream sources on this.

[1] https://piunikaweb.com/2019/02/05/the-demise-of-copperheados...

62. theFre+fI6[view] [source] 2023-05-29 15:31:41
>>joemaz+(OP)
It's pretty clear to me that Rossmann decided he would go after Micay to protect himself in some way. Louis has openly and proudly stated he has "no patience" for anyone with mental issues that aren't "putting in enough effort to be normal". he's made videos about this and commented to this effect. I believe Rossmann grew fustrated with Micay at some point and then decided to bait him into a reaction so he could take him out of context to.. i dont know get back at him? Its not very clear to me exactly why he would do this.. but i urge you to rewatch the original rossmann video with a sober eye. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0& then watch this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Pj0Z2__SI
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65. joemaz+J97[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-29 18:37:48
>>lopken+2X1
A quick review of Daniel's comment history should suffice

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=strcat

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