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1. spacem+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-10-12 16:00:04
If Apple becomes an ad company, I'll have to seriously reconsider my commitment to Apple.

The only reason I moved away from Android was Google. I had no real complaints from the phones or Android user-experience itself.

replies(3): >>andsoi+jg >>kornho+hm >>renewi+4w
2. andsoi+jg[view] [source] 2022-10-12 17:08:17
>>spacem+(OP)
What phone would you get?
replies(2): >>spacem+Ei >>fsflov+R21
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3. spacem+Ei[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-12 17:19:14
>>andsoi+jg
I'll just go back to Android. If my only options are adware companies, I might as well get the cheaper product.
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4. kornho+hm[view] [source] 2022-10-12 17:36:05
>>spacem+(OP)
Too bad you didn't know that you can use Android without Google. Checkout grapheneos.org or lineageos.org.
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5. renewi+4w[view] [source] 2022-10-12 18:21:52
>>spacem+(OP)
I mean, what are you really going to do? Apple has $4b ad revenue and you aren't moving. I'm sure just like now you'll have a reason "oh it's not actually X" or whatever.

People make all these dramatic commitments but they never go through with it, or they leave out the true caveats that would weaken the statement.

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6. Tijdre+bA[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-12 18:39:12
>>renewi+4w
Based on what little privacy research we have, between Apple and Google, neither is privacy-friendly, but at least Apple is more so than Google.

That is to say, I don’t see why one would move when the alternative is worse.

replies(1): >>renewi+tD
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7. renewi+tD[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-12 18:54:10
>>Tijdre+bA
Yep, exactly, so any threat to "seriously reconsider [one's] commitment" is toothless.
replies(1): >>fsflov+Oq2
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8. fsflov+R21[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-12 20:52:28
>>andsoi+jg
How about https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 or https://pine64.org/pinephone?
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9. fsflov+Oq2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-13 07:34:13
>>renewi+tD
Unless you buy non-Apple and non-Google smartphone.
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10. eaglea+BV2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-13 12:40:14
>>spacem+Ei
Not only that but it's more feature rich. Like in 2022 you can't disable DTMF tones, no autosuggestion on the dialing screen, hard-limit to 100 most recent numbers in the log, and so on.
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11. butter+Zg7[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-14 18:09:30
>>kornho+hm
Also, /e/ os*
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