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1. dont__+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-10-12 15:36:18
I mean, Apple has put Lidar into a decent percentage of iPhones over the past few years. Wifi and cellular signals can be used in a similar way to generate low-resolution maps of the world around your phone. And there's of course cameras on the front and back.

All running on closed source Apple software, with no physical on/off switch for those data collection pathways... or even the phone itself, which never fully shuts down. So maybe Tim Cook really is Big Brother.

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2. prange+Y[view] [source] 2022-10-12 15:40:00
>>dont__+(OP)
There are no data pathways for aggregating that data. It just gets used by apps.
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3. coldte+j4[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-12 15:53:24
>>prange+Y
Says who?
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4. prange+k7[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-12 16:05:01
>>coldte+j4
Says Apple in their privacy policies.

If you have even the slightest evidence to the contrary, now is the time to present it.

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5. ben_w+F38[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-14 22:26:39
>>prange+k7
Ok, so I trust Apple about privacy, but back when I tried self publishing on the App Store I kept every copy of the developer agreement because running diff was the only practical way to know about half the changes they made, and for which I was only given a Hobson's choice to accept or stop using the store.

I don't trust them to stay good forever.

I definitely don't trust them to not get infiltrated by government agents who want the sensor data. I only mostly trust their digital security enough for Apple Pay and Keychain.

I recognise none of this is evidence against Apple as it is today, and that my concerns speak of hypotheticals. But then, I don't think of anyone at Apple as Big Brother; the closest is that I find their content rules to be that frustrating Anglosphere dichotomy which treats sexuality as vastly worse than violence.

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6. prange+9e8[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-14 23:54:25
>>ben_w+F38
Sure - anyone is capable of doing something bad in the future.

But, it is utterly dishonest to claim they are doing it now if you have no evidence.

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