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Ask HN: Is there a place on HN for interesting yet flame-war inducing topics?

submitted by hn_thr+(OP) on 2021-12-12 19:22:04 | 76 points 97 comments
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I ask this (as truly an open question, without knowing the answer) because of 2 recent posts on HN that got flagged, one a thought-provoking article by a Yale student titled "Abolish Yale", and the other about the California proposal to use the recently-novel "citizen deputization" legal techniques pioneered by Texas, but this time to restrict assault weapons.

The reason I ask this is because there appear to be a growing collection of topics that are interesting and deserving of debate, but because they are hot-button issues they often devolve into flame wars. I've been on the other side of this as well, where I commented that I flagged a DEI-focused article because, while I thought the topic itself was interesting, it seems comment threads on DEI topics always devolve into uninteresting flame wars, and that I rarely learn something new from these threads.

I didn't feel that about the 2 topics today that got flagged - indeed, there were a bunch of comments that let me to going down Wikipedia rabbit holes and I learned a ton, and for both of these topics the first I heard about them was on HN.

So my question to the HN community is whether you think there is some way (e.g. feature changes, "sub topics", etc.) to host these topics that seem fundamentally relevant to the HN audience, but which are so difficult to have debate about without getting flooded by low quality comments?


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55. dillon+wg[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-12 21:16:19
>>Pragma+1d
You might want to check out https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/. It's decent and the mods are pretty strict with deleting comments that don't have source & facts in them.
57. zozbot+2h[view] [source] 2021-12-12 21:20:45
>>hn_thr+(OP)
The https://news.ycombinator.com/active front page has a listing of "active" topics, where active sometimes correlates with controversial. I'm not going to pretend that everything in there will be "interesting" in any real sense, but it's a place you might want to look at.
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66. bitcha+vl[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-12 21:51:31
>>andrew+Q8
I have been here for over 5 years and sadly have to agree with OP. HN's content is very heavily moderated up to a point where the front page contains only dang-approved items.

If you don't believe me - here's a quick experiment.

1. Find an article in the new section that is getting really popular

2. Observe as it either gets taken down from the front page or never makes it there even though it beats other submissions in popularity.

3. Ask dang how it's possible that this submission never made it to the front page. He'll say it was a moderation mistake [0].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26894047

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96. sleepy+AJ4[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-14 12:29:13
>>dang+dS2
>Can you give links to some one-sided conversations? I don't see many of those.

The first and most obvious topics are going to be the more controversial topics.

So look at climate change, covid/vaccines, US politics especially anything pro-trump or election fraud, and well anything touching on religion.

Here is today's climate change article, right on time.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29546875

Haven't quite read it yet but I'd bet there's only 1 side talking there.

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