> Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots).
Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is that it should be older than a year ago before I'd submit it again. Three posts with the same URL for three consecutive days seems a bit too much.
> Hacker News is moderated mainly by dang aka Dan Gackle (pronounced ‘Gackley’). He’s not of asian descent
??? Is it common that people think he is Asian for some reason? What a strange paragraph to include...
> ??? Is it common that people think he is Asian for some reason? What a strange paragraph to include...
"Dang" is a surname in Vietnam, China, and elsewhere [1], which has led to subthreads like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20643150 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25053380 in which, yes, people thought he was Asian.
I agree, the paragraph is strange and at best reads like a non-sequitur.
Then again I always associated the username "dang" with the word "dang", which I thought it was an amusing (and appropriate) choice of name for a moderator.
Roughly 40% of all Vietnamese people are called "Nguyen", which makes it one of the most common family names in the world.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6799854
Fun fact: there are manual keyword penalties, such as for bitcoin, and back around 2013 there used to be a penalty for "NSA".
Explanation by dang: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9097596
Dang is a common euphemism for the swear word damn, https://mashable.com/article/origin-of-swear-words - the euphemism "dang" was first used around 1780.
I believe it is also regional and somewhat archaic in use now unless you are real religious and probably also rural.
>but Asia is a pretty big place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dang_(surname)
surname in China, Vietnam, Korea, and India.
Also apparently in Germany.
And if I recall well, dang has already said several times that he will not disclose the algorithm https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
Some posts get reposted a lot see this website for example https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=lihaoyi.com some were posted 7 times.
This thing is that almost any well written (and not too much technical) post can reach the frontpage it only requires 3-4 people who like the post enough to upvote it during the first 30 minutes. As a result reposting works for those kind of content. And as it is not forbidden, people do it
But they don't seem to compute the ranking exactly as HN does it. I guess they use the same formula but HN discard some upvotes from 'bots' accounts
As a tribute to Dang, whose name you say when you make a mistake, here are some of my favorite Far Side cartoons:
Some Weirdo: https://web.archive.org/web/20190901100845/https://i.pinimg....
Monster Jobs: https://web.archive.org/web/20211028134713/https://i.pinimg....
Vultures: https://web.archive.org/web/20211028134854/https://i.pinimg....
Construction Birds at Lunch: [missing] https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3b/c5/fd/3bc5fd323e791b6879529e6a5...
Blizard's A-Comin': https://web.archive.org/web/20200509234955/https://i.pinimg....
The Creeps: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/1c/5e/5a1c5ef2e9ab19d27970...
Superman In His Later Years: https://web.archive.org/web/20211028134903/https://i.pinimg....
Before Paper and Scissors: https://web.archive.org/web/20211028134904/https://i.pinimg....
Sorry, Buddy: [missing] https://i.pinimg.com/564x/49/6b/3a/496b3a234ddeca894887b249e...
Nerd! ...: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c9/08/a0/c908a02a8dfa42db9973f743b...
The Thanksgiving themed one that I googled and googled and googled for but couldn't find, which was taped to my mom's refrigerator, was the disappointed bird standing in front of the open refrigerator, lamenting: "Dang, somebody ate the middle out of the daddy longlegs!"
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law
>Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."
That's indeed the rule, but only when the story has had significant attention (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html).
When a story hasn't had significant attention in the last year (or a bit longer), it's ok to repost a small number of times.
Past explanations here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
Guidelines-breaking comments do frequently appear about China, but that is a function of geopolitical and media trends, not HN moderation. The way we moderate such comments has nothing to do with my/our personal views about China or any other country. If you stop and think about it and you know the HN guidelines well, this shouldn't be that hard to believe. The vast majority of these moderation calls are not borderline.
From a moderation perspective, everything in the above paragraph is obvious. From a user perspective, it's often impossible to communicate, because whenever someone has a strong feeling about $topic, their view about moderation is determined by their feeling about $topic. If they see us moderating something they agree with, they jump to the conclusion that we're secretly in cahoots with the opposing side. Of course the opposing side does the same thing.
Just for clarity, when I was talking about how users are emotional about the front page and react intensely when they see something they don't think belongs there, it was in the context of an experiment we'd run to randomly place stories from /newest on the front page. Users reacted disastrously, not so much because of scope but because the median article's quality is just really low. That's true about in-scope topics like programming as well as other topics. I hope that makes sense.
As for 'who gets to be a member' - we don't restrict that nor want to restrict that. Everyone with intellectual curiosity, i.e. everyone, is welcome. The only requirement is actually using the site in that spirit. This is not so easy, of course, especially when the more activating topics show up.
It's really hard to devise software protections to help HN stay within its mandate that don't at the same time end up penalizing a certain amount of benign activity. It's a bit like how white blood cells also kill some things that aren't a threat. But the solution is not to turn off the white blood cells - that would be really bad.
Oh, hey. This is my moment of glory, I guess!
The number of people I moderate has only increased since then. I still stand by those words.
try to make something like this:
https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=xwdv
more like this:
[edit deln.] How can you want to be part of something when you don’t even know what it’s like on the inside?
What happens when you are given a task you do NOT want to be part of? What happens when a task has moral gray area? What happens if you suddenly decide you really want to be part of something else?
[edit deln] if you’re hiring someone you want someone with valuable skills who is ready to be of service, ready to do whatever you ask, and will remain loyal so long as they are paid. You don’t want people to be nice, you want them to be predictable. That’s true value.
On HN the culture of 'nothing good to say?; say nothing' is fairly baked in so will create this effect even more so.
Voting allows lurkers a voice, who often are the majority of users (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker citation 11).
Anything relating to the scam MMO known as Dreamworld that Y combinator funded, and how its funding was possibly due to nepotism.
Anything relating to the admin of KiwiFarm's rebuttal [1] of Byuu's attacks on his forum or how her suicide was proven fake.
[1] https://kiwifarms.net/threads/my-response-regarding-byuu-nea...
There are others but either I can't remember them right now or I don't have adequate sources to them.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27319457 - May 2021 (238 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26898266 - April 2021 (195 comments)
Not only did we not censor that, I recall holding back on moderating it. We moderate HN less, not more, when YC or a YC-funded startup is involved (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...).
You're right about the second case - we moderated that as not on-topic for HN.
And include the link in the post.
The story-ID is the numeric part of the post URL.
For this thread, where the post URL is
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29024032
(Moderators can use the story-ID via browser extensions / bookmarklets, I just learned yesterday.)
Similarly, include the story-ID for other issues (e.g., editorialised or clickbait title, suggesting a canonical URL, vouching flagged stories, spam).
If you want the rate limit turned off, we'd be happy to do that as long as we have reason to believe that you'll use the site as intended in the future. I'm sorry for the annoyance but we have to do what we can to prevent this place from burning itself to a crisp, and if you want to post without being throttled then we need your help with that.