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The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C

submitted by Kapura+(OP) on 2020-06-05 13:46:18 | 336 points 136 comments
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6. Kapura+Lb[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 14:47:37
>>solotr+u8
From the Hacker News Guidelines[1]:

>What to Submit

>On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

I found the story intellectually stimulating, and thought others might too.

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34. random+aF[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 17:17:51
>>mike_d+Xo
https://twitter.com/Susan_Hennessey/ has been looking into this quite a bit, some here: https://twitter.com/Susan_Hennessey/status/12682415415476592...

Basically it sounds like her understanding is that they are only required to present ID when they take a police action? But I don't understand why blocking a street would not be a police action.

DC Metro attempting to arrest Bureau of Prisons employees when they fail to identify sounds like a complete mess.

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58. ColanR+iQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 18:01:24
>>madeng+xw
Everyone replying to you don't seem to realize that some of these protests have involved 'well armed citizenry' already, and their doomsday predictions of the result haven't happened. https://imgur.com/gallery/p3LRF1L
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67. vorpal+sV[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 18:25:43
>>mywitt+nH
The black panthers had several armed marches.. and one reason why they took up arms was because they kept getting (illegally) arrested for marching unarmed. They actually sat at the California courthouse while armed.. and everything that day was peaceful. That did inspire Reagan to pass significant gun control laws though, both as Governor and President.

Image: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi...

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70. colpab+IX[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 18:35:39
>>0x8BAD+tK
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-tim...
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76. ColanR+411[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 18:53:17
>>LaMars+WT
See my other comment. https://imgur.com/gallery/p3LRF1L
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85. drak0n+481[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 19:27:14
>>ColanR+iQ
Not many people are aware - in Coeur d'Alene open-carry conservatives joined and protected protesters and successfully deterred rioters from subverting the protest. Local news interviews with protest leaders and armed volunteers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIS4C7ym5YM

If there is to be an alternative to the distant and aloof police state, it will have to be in the form of attentive and caring locals possessing sufficient enforcement power. Their look may vary based on local demographics, but I think that's okay as long as they are accountable to their neighbors.

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86. rgbren+K81[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 19:30:46
>>bloak+VW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combatant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_combatant

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106. crocod+Hu1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 21:26:00
>>milkyt+Ii1
Much of that component of protest planning is typically relegated to private planning groups and chats. If you get a whiff of it as an outside observer, it's usually a mayor making a public statement affirming protestor's right to express themselves. This makes sense, because acknowledging that you're collaborating the the local government and police makes your protest work seem much less subversive.

A good example of how this is somewhat standardized among more professional organizers is the March For Our Lives planning Toolkit, wherein they propose having dedicated liasons to serve as intermediaries between the organizers, city, and police. [0]

The collaboration needn't necessarily be initiated by the organizers, however. It's just as, if not more likely that local government reaches out to event planners in order to assess any potential security needs.

Women's march: >_A spokeswoman for the city told Philadelphia magazine that officials had discussed security measures with the march’s organizers “prior to and during planning for the march, and organizers understood the public safety concerns and our responsibilities in ensuring a safe event” but confirmed that “permitting was not contingent on agreeing to these measures.”_[1]

More Recently:

>_"We do not tolerate these acts of protest. We celebrate these acts of protest," Hogsett said. "And just as with yesterday we will continue to work with event organizers to ensure they have a venue to deliver their nonviolent message without interference."_[2]

[0]https://everytown.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/March-For-O...

[1]https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/01/19/womens-march-phila...

[2]https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/indianapolis/2020/...

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132. evanb+Q87[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-08 12:25:49
>>jki275+xK2
You may feel that way but the NRA has a history of caring who has the arms. See, for example, 1967's Black Panthers

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nra-california-open-carry-...

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136. dang+yW7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-08 18:01:25
>>hopfsc+LM6
We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines and ignoring our request to stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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