Edit: Why was this down-voted? And why was the post itself flagged?
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1266917228752056320
https://twitter.com/mollypshe/status/1266934680273727491
https://twitter.com/chalametvol6/status/1267059474591879171
https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/126694270336910540...
https://twitter.com/zellieimani/status/1267057207172050944
https://twitter.com/stephenjadler/status/1267153715674349568
Edit to add for examples:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu5pqj/a_veteran_prot...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtx9am/the_police_tak...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtzxn3/were_stronger_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtu8tp/a_protester_an...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gttacf/its_not_white_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtq55f/at_a_peaceful_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu6rdi/police_support...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtr8un/a_conversation...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu5lrf/its_not_black_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu6dsz/police_kneelin...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu4ptc/we_need_more_o...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtlla0/a_californian_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtynyd/genesee_county...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtxiq5/found_this_pic...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu60jr/protestors_and...
https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/comments/gtrjby/genes...
https://twitter.com/ZachandMattShow/status/12672081705749381...
And some abuse..
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtsbs8/like_a_boss/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtqpre/new_york_state...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu1qgy/cop_in_full_ri...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu02su/a_child_after_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/gu10qz/law_enforcemen...
Compilation video - https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/gtvcup/share_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu5yru/us_s...
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/gtvet8/rubber_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu2hdi/innocent_shopp...
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu629x/nurs...
https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1267033010295042048
.... and on and on and on... There will be 1000s to 10,000s of events to catalogue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu3s6j/poli...
The list is growing by the hour.
Cops in America need to learn very quickly that their power comes only from the consent of the people they police, or they will be made to understand that fact.
Anonymous-site-as-a-service must be a thing.
Violence against citizens:
https://twitter.com/stribrooks/status/1266186985041022976
https://twitter.com/chieffymac11/status/1266884475268616197
https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225
https://twitter.com/KCJ_Swish/status/1266913464234237954
https://twitter.com/Booker4KY/status/1266895243913367553
Violence against reporters:
https://twitter.com/chieffymac11/status/1266884475268616197
https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1266921035800199170
https://twitter.com/MikeGeorgeCBS/status/1266919447970942986
https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317/status/12669452685676789...
https://twitter.com/TinaDesireeBerg/status/12669224135911055...
https://twitter.com/PLBarghouty/status/1266922618122354690
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1266910910137995264
https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1266315061209030658
Police slashing tires of cars left parked in parking lots:
https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1266987126467461120
https://twitter.com/brandiiimariiie/status/12669756143781519...
https://twitter.com/val_ebertz/status/1266975058230235137
Examples of good policing:
https://twitter.com/midmichigannow/status/126690773673595699...
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1266895422397779968
Just one for a little bit of laughter in this depressing time:
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All of the requests on their website seem reasonable and it was really illuminating doing research on my local police force and seeing how few of them they've enacted.
I clicked this. It contains a apparently completely baseless claim that a masked looter is an "undercover cop". The claim also has been denied by the St. Paul police department.
Is it your intention to discredit claims of police brutality by repeating apparently false ones?
Make it static.
Be able to deploy quickly to a new host if need be.
Maybe you should check your biases.
And here you go,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/judge-releases...
Tell me why this guy deserved to die for losing at a game of Simon Says.
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/video-shows-officer-kicking-wo...
You're talking about this oft-shared video, I imagine:
https://twitter.com/LibertyHangout/status/126692640226952396...
Yea, wow, those protesters really did a number on that guy. Obviously he was just defending his shop from Thugs, right?
Oh wait... no. He was a crazy person running at protesters with a sword:
https://twitter.com/sable_sonya/status/1267148333203800064
And look at that, those Thugs, after protecting themselves from him, then took on the role of First Responder, and started treating him:
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/126692749194958848...
The officer charged with murdering George Floyd has been charged with police brutality 12 times, and let off with "no discipline" every time [0].
If officers who used excessive force aren't punished, they are taught that their actions were acceptable. I'd like to see calls for punishment in the case of Derek Chauvin, as well as for any use of excessive violence. I think convicting Derek Chauvin for murder would set a new standard for police conduct that could prevent similar acts of excessive violence from happening in the future.
[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/LPOTL/comments/gsespz/derek_chauvin...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforc...
The gap with other first world countries is absolutely enormous.
I recently found out about an app from the ACLU specifically for recording//reporting (abusive) police activities.
The app itself, at least the California version, has a section regarding one's rights and safety whilst filming police.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-po....
That is only one of the reports in that lengthy tweet thread. And it's not baseless, here is the evidence for it: https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176
Here's the tweet where the St. Paul police department denied it: https://twitter.com/sppdmn/status/1266202225677910022
Posted 2.5 hours after the original claim - fast investigation for the police to clear themselves of all wrongdoing.
> Is it your intention to discredit claims of police brutality by repeating apparently false ones?
Lol.
Have you read about what happened during the Civil Rights Movement? How many MAGAs would even blink if police started killing Black people?
More recently MOVE was bombed and no politicians thought twice.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/10/move-1985-bo...
Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Fox News hosts, and even Rush Limbaugh have all spoken out against the murder of George Floyd.
> “I hope these cops are dealt with good and hard,” Limbaugh said. “I’ve seen the video like everybody else, and it makes me so mad I can’t see straight.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/limbaugh-george-floyd-death-m...
> "it was clearly police brutality and it was not conduct we expect of any officer," Cruz said.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ted-cruz-on-floyds-death-riots...
Stop and Frisk disparity between Blacks and Whites
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/nyregion/nypd-social-dist...
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/new-evidence-r...
It's number 1 there right now. I typically use the /active site instead of the homepage as I mostly come here for the discussion sections anyway.
The https://news.ycombinator.com/lists page is generally a great resource for HN.
More evidence that Whites are less likely to get tickets for the same offense.
https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-racial-profiling...
The Movement for Black Lives objects to body cams: https://m4bl.org/policy-platforms/end-the-war-on-black-peopl...
Here are some other remarks Trump made along with "very fine people":
> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
> The driver of the car is a murderer. And what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.
> I think the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family, and this country.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trump...
Excuse me, the armed Michigan protestors who stormed the state capital were “very good people”.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/politics/donald-trump-michiga...
Why not make the people really safe and reinstate Jim Crow and laws against interracial marriage?
I’m sure you wouldn’t feel the same way if you were constantly stopped because of the color of your skin. But we should just accept it.
This also explains why minority owned startups get a lot less VC funding than people who “pattern match” with Zuckerberg.
And you wonder why there are riots...
Btw, they were wrong.
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/08/the-data-can-no-longe...
But it turns out that the New York Daily News was wrong about its forecasts, which the media outlet’s editorial board wrote in an op-ed Monday that it was “delighted” to admit. Instead of bedlam up in Brooklyn and hell up in Harlem, as the paper had warned would happen as a result of scaling back “stop and frisk,” the opposite happened: “Post stop-and-frisk, the facts are clear,” wrote the editorial board Monday. “New York is safer while friction between the NYPD and the city’s minority communities has eased.
Here is what quality reporting looks like
https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/31/21276044/police-violence-...
Yes, people. Sometimes reporting takes effort, and professionals can do a better job than inexperienced people.
Do you think 20 or 30 armed Black men could have gotten away with this?
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/05/05/PDTF/5969fca5-...
So I looked it up for my state: https://www.superlawyers.com/texas/article/stop-and-frisk-in...
Here it seems to be related almost entirely to traffic stops. I suspect, but don’t know, that racial identity would play a lesser role in that case because an officer wouldn’t likely known a driver’s race until the vehicle is already pulled over. To play devils advocate though I am white and had law enforcement ask to search my vehicle several times in my youth.
And these are the types of excuses White people make to justify and to gloss over problems.
Here are similar statistics for Florida.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/new-evidence-r...
And GA.
https://www.wabe.org/study-3-ga-locations-black-latino-drive...
But you really think racial profiling only happens in one state.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65...
I can only speculate about what your exact argument is: I'm guessing that what you're saying is that, surely, today's police are behaving better than the police in, say, the civil rights movement era (I couldn't find any data on that but I'm willing to accept that much for the sake of argument). And I think you infer from that that police violence is downward trending and that therefore, we should just let matters run their course: any upset to the delicate improvement might plunge us in the other direction.
But your inference is incorrect. You're looking at a function over time, see that this function was (probably) higher at some point in the past than it is now, and conclude from that that the function is still trending downwards. Essentially your argument seems to be based on the entirely unjustified assumption that the function has to be monotonically decreasing.
But if you don't assume monotonicity (and you really shouldn't), then function values in the far past don't give you any information about the derivative of the function at t=now. And the derivative at t=now seems to be (ever so slightly) positive, not negative as you imply. In which case, evidently, things are not improving on their own.
Transparency is the only way to root out actual and suspected corruption. It’s not a cure but a required prerequisite.
People sometimes feel like if a story isn't on HN's front page, that we, or the community, feel like it's unimportant. That's not it at all. Rather, importance is not the quality that organizes HN. If it were, HN would not exist. An entirely different website, or no website, would exist in its place.
The organizing principle of HN is intellectual curiosity [1]. Everything we do here derives from that [2]. In the case of a thread like this one, the question I have as a moderator (not as a human being or a citizen) is whether this community, in its particular manifestation in this thread, is able to have a thoughtful conversation in which curiosity is present, or whether it is not. We sometimes turn off user flags if the answer is yes, but not if the answer is no.
That doesn't necessarily have to do with the story itself being on-topic or off-topic for HN. A story like this (or rather the cluster of stories around George Floyd, the protests, the riots, and related topics like police violence) is too big to be called on-topic or off-topic. It depends on the particular submission and the particular thread. HN has had several major threads related to this story and I'm sure it will have more.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
