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Gish Gallop

submitted by diablo+(OP) on 2020-05-08 14:38:45 | 33 points 26 comments
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1. bobbie+Xl[view] [source] 2020-05-08 16:37:28
>>diablo+(OP)
A particularly ridiculous version of this is "spreading" in debate, where you speak extremely fast so that your opponent has difficulty addressing all your points.

Wired video with some interviews: https://youtu.be/0FPsEwWT6K0

And a transcribed video from a highly-prepped debate: https://youtu.be/JhzwSlK4uEc

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19. DonHop+DB[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-05-08 18:01:44
>>cxr+Nv
It's a long tradition!

https://smbx.org/bsg-guide-for-sending-email/

Proposed Symbolics guidelines for mail messages

BSG 4/11/84

[...]

It is customary to attack the someone by including his or her message, indented (unless you are using MM), and replying point by point, as someone debating someone they are watching on TV, or hearing on the radio.

It is considered artful to append many messages on a subject, leaving only the most inflammatory lines from each, and reply to all in one swift blow. The choice of lines to support your argument can make or break your case.

Replying to one's own message is a rarely-exposed technique for switching positions once you have thought about something only after sending mail.

[...]

You get 3 opportunities to advertise your Rock band, no more.

Idiosyncratic indentations, double-spacing, capitalization, etc., while stamps of individuality, leave one an easy target for parody.

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20. dang+NB[view] [source] 2020-05-08 18:02:24
>>diablo+(OP)
If people keep submitting (edit: I should really say upvoting) wikipedia.org articles on widely popular topics, we're going to have to penalize Wikipedia submissions again. We used to do that, but I was persuaded to remove the penalty. This case is particularly bad because the topic has long been an internet cliché, and also because it has a meta aspect. Meta is internet forum crack, so we try not to do it here—er, not too much. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23114661 is another current thread where the topic is much too well-known to make a good Wikipedia submission.

Good HN submissions from Wikipedia are about topics that have not been widely discussed before, and about which there isn't a good article available elsewhere. (If there is, it's best to submit the latter instead.) Since Wikipedia is the most generic of sources, short of maybe a dictionary, it should be the domain of last resort for a topic.

I appreciate that not everyone has seen the same things. You can always use search as a proxy for how well known something is: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....

This has been coming up repeatedly recently:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23089041

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22990237

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