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Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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7. LakeAu+Li[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-27 14:26:55
>>Operyl+Db
We'll support 224 TLDs at launch! Full list here: https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/ And you'll be able to redact your personal information from Whois with us, too.
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8. LakeAu+Ti[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-27 14:27:44
>>r1ch+R3
We want to help you consolidate those! Full list here for TLDs supported at launch, but we're busy working to add more before then. https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/
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37. x13+c41[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-27 19:20:45
>>nickjj+fJ
Google Suite starts at $5 per email address per month; I think asking for free email accounts is beyond the product offering of domain registration/renewal.

And they probably want to reserve usage of their domain for email so you know it's a staff member you're dealing with, which is why google gives away gmail.com addresses, not google.com addresses.

Here are three less expensive email options for you:

1. get a VM and install exim/postfix 2. OpenSRS https://opensrs.com/services/hosted-email/ 3. AWS workmail https://aws.amazon.com/workmail/

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52. Bluest+ne1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-27 20:37:47
>>rk249+561
I think [0] is the article in question; just search the page for the namecheap comments.

0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18059792

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64. zawerf+9l1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-27 21:20:31
>>Bluest+ne1
It seems like it was just a handful of users who posted their story multiple times. The users highclass, ethanwillis, kweks all had multiple comments only about namecheap on a thread that wasn't directly about namecheap.

Can I get more horror stories to confirm those are real? It's unfortunate because namecheap used to have the exact opposite reputation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3396606

74. conver+9q1[view] [source] 2018-09-27 21:52:18
>>jgraha+(OP)
While I'm sure few of us would have controversial domains, let's remember that Cloudflare have removed the DNS records of sites that they didn't like in the past[0].

[0] - https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

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98. aestet+uy1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-27 22:57:57
>>Meekro+3x1
Except that Cloudflare terminated Daily Stormer after allowing terrorist groups to operate under the guise of "free speech":

https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/cloudflare-and-...

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107. zawerf+Fz1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-27 23:13:09
>>kweks+zw1
Just curious, where are you going to move to?

If someone really wanted to sue you, it's pretty cheap to issue subpoenas (<$100). The provider can quash the subpoena on the customers' behalf[1] but I don't know any who does.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_subpoena

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121. sahask+wE1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 00:17:03
>>dsnuh+si1
I've used OPEN SRS with a good experience in the past. https://opensrs.com/integration/api/
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127. Mistri+KG1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 00:45:40
>>conrad+3G1
From a quick look at https://domains.google, it seems like all domains start at $12/year. That's definitely not wholesale.
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129. brandu+5H1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 00:49:21
>>conrad+3G1
Aside from the price, one very good reason to be interested in CloudFlare as a registrar compared to Google Domains is that CloudFlare supports CNAME flattening [1] so that you can use a CNAME instead of an IP address for an A record (AKA "ALIAS" on DNSimple or Route53).

I'm using Google Domains right now, but have been using CloudFlare to host my DNS for ages for this reason alone. I'll think about transferring my domains to them when the time comes to take one service out of the equation.

[1] https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200169056-C...

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130. krn+8H1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 00:50:32
>>conrad+3G1
Google Domains is only available in 15 countries[1]. Also, I wouldn't use a personal Google account to register a domain name for a company.

[1] https://support.google.com/domains/answer/4639612?hl=en

142. _jomo+WK1[view] [source] 2018-09-28 01:57:37
>>jgraha+(OP)
I wonder why nobody has mentioned Njalla [0] yet.

>We want to keep things simple and we're not trying to compete on price but security. We will never be the cheapest domain name registration service but we'll always be the most privacy centered one

You sign up with email or XMPP+OTR, they send mails PGP signed + encrypted (using info from key server or the key you uploaded), they have app based (TOTP) 2FA and they accept various cryptocurrencies.

There's no bullshit and so far the support has been quite good.

Their DNS (currently) supports: A, AAAA, CAA, CNAME, MX, NS, PTR, SRV, SSHFP, TXT (also "Dynamic" and "Redirect")

It's run by some of the Pirate Bay founders and they're still making fun of legal threats. ;)

0: https://njal.la

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147. Shank+YM1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 02:26:24
>>trioda+cK1
Yep! Here you go: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/cloudflare-ceo-t...

Matthew Prince is a human like everybody else, and honestly, I would rather have him guarding my back than a lot of other tech CEOs.

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165. lazyco+LQ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 03:21:39
>>jazoom+Dr1
I love Namesilo and have been using them for over a year with no hiccups.

However, they were acquired by a Canadian investment firm earlier this year [1]. Till now there's been no change and things are still running smoothly — I just hope that continues.

[1] https://coupontree.co/namesilo-was-sold-for-9-5-million/

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174. marius+fY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 05:06:41
>>Ayesh+sl1
Ok, makes sense. I learned about https://opensrs.com/services/hosted-email/ from another thread.
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184. krn+052[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 07:36:42
>>bad_us+P22
> Is Cloudflare profitable?

CloudFlare has been profitable since 2014[1]:

> CloudFlare has raised more than $72 million in funding, with a $50 million round in 2012, valuing the company at $1 billion. That last slug of equity is still in the bank, says Prince; the company says it just had its first cash-flow-positive quarter with revenue, estimated to be around $40 million by year-end, growing 450% year over year.

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/07/30/cloudfla...

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192. floatb+y92[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 08:57:36
>>conver+9q1
That decision I support. An actually terrible idea they had though was to forward abuse complaints directly to the accused site owner, complete with personal information about the reporter:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/cloudflare-chang...

But my biggest concern is that CloudFlare is centralizing the internet way too much. If most connections to smaller websites are proxied through CloudFlare, the web becomes very centralized: all your connections go either to other giants like Google/Facebook/Netflix, or to Cloudflare.

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193. floatb+I92[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 09:00:10
>>fooey+nB1
https://www.migadu.com has a free plan, and you can set up forwards… maybe you can do that with them
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201. icebra+Me2[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 10:24:00
>>znpy+xd2
From Tophost: "solo 1 euro in più per .com". So it's 6.99€ ~= $8.10; seven cents more than Cloudflare.

In any case, the Verisign fee is not hard to confirm; it would be weird for them to lie about it: https://investor.verisign.com/news-releases/news-release-det...

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204. edent+3g2[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 10:40:56
>>kijeda+dl1
There are some domains which allow Punycode converted emoji. See https://xn--i-7iq.ws/
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208. WordSk+Ti2[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 11:20:07
>>maxgas+yH1
No, Transferwise provide balances as part of their "Borderless banking" accounts: https://transferwise.com/gb/borderless/
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209. nickjj+nj2[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 11:27:28
>>jazoom+ri2
They are $8.99 for me for 1 year at a time. I have 7 domains with them but I didn't opt into their "discount program" (which required pre-funding your account at least $50 instead of using a CC / PayPal on demand). That's the one that drops them to $6.99 as seen here: https://www.namesilo.com/Support/Discount-Program

It does mention the renewal price is $8.89 (which is about the normal price) if you click the renewals tab.

I don't think I would put this into the same category as a bait and switch tactic that other vendors do. This one is all spelled out on the page and it's not part of the check out process. You have to go out of your way to discover and opt into the discount program.

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233. cpncru+083[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 18:17:58
>>johnkl+Az1
Code here:

https://pastebin.com/tgS58k6Q

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235. jlgadd+ep3[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 20:23:40
>>johnkl+Az1
If you've ever ran Postfix on a public-facing MX host, you're probably familiar with so-called "restrictions" like "check_client_access", "check_recipient_access", and "check_sender_access".

There are also several other (seemingly lesser known) restrictions available, such as "check_sender_a_access", "check_client_mx_access", and "check_helo_ns_access" (plus similar variations you can likely think of) that you can use to take action based upon things like the IP address(es) listed in the A RR for the client MTA's hostname, the hostname(s) listed in the MX RRs for the client MTA's IP address, and/or the authoritative DNS servers of the domain name provided by the client MTA during the HELO/EHLO phase.

Imagine a spammer that had hundreds of domain names, all of which used her own DNS servers, jack.ns.example.com and jill.ns.example.com. Using check_sender_ns_access, for example, you can quickly and easily reject all mail where the domain name in the envelope from address uses one of these authoritative DNS servers.

If you get creative, you can come up with some really effective combinations that are actually pretty simple.

[0]: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html

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236. jlgadd+7s3[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-28 20:46:32
>>cpncru+083
Why use a homebrew Perl script for this when Postfix (and likely most other MTAs) has features available that can do this for you?

Want to block all mail from any domain name that's hosted by Cloudflare? That's simple enough (and doesn't require taking a shower afterwards, unlike when writing Perl).

Just grab the plain-text version of the file that contains the list of Cloudflare's IP address ranges [0], create a CIDR table [1] containing those ranges (followed by a "REJECT"), and add an instance of "check_sender_a_access" to your "smtpd_sender_restrictions" [2].

(Bonus points for taking a couple of minutes to write a shell script that runs once per day from cron, grabs the latest version of this text file, adds " REJECT" to the end of each line for you, and triggers a reload of Postfix if there were any changes to the IP ranges that it needs to know about.)

[0]: https://www.cloudflare.com/ips-v4

[1]: http://www.postfix.org/cidr_table.5.html

[2]: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_sender_restrict...

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245. jlgadd+2s4[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-29 15:03:57
>>cpncru+2N3
Postfix's "zombie blocker", postscreen [0] (which ships with Postfix), offers that functionality -- and more [1] -- out of the box.

In the worst case, where you have some unusual, specific need that hasn't been designed for, you can -- quite easily -- easily create your own policy daemon [2] (even in Perl; see the example) and/or milters [3].

> I wouldn't say that. perl is about the best scripting language IMO, and is available on all systems.

Oh, I agree; I was mostly teasing. I first started using Perl c. 1995 (and later, for writing CGI scripts, when CGI became a thing) and it is still the scripting language I reach for 95% of the time for basic sysadmin stuff.

> I wrote my own spam filter because I want to have full control over how I deal with spam, and generally it works very well.

I certainly can't fault you for that. Take a look at the greylist.pl script that ships with Postfix. It is an example of a policy daemon that implements greylisting (not meant for production; for greylisting, use postscreen instead). It's been several years ago but, after looking at that, I was able to implement my first policy daemon (which reached out to a MySQL server) in about 20 minutes and, after some testing, put it into production shortly after that. It's amazingly simple.

I'm not sure what MTA you are currently using but I would certainly recommend looking into Postfix. Back in the 90s, I was a hardcore, bigoted sendmail guy ("Give me sendmail or give me death!") but at some point I started looking into Postfix and have never looked back. Among other things, I manage mail systems at $work (an ISP) and I'm "very anti-spam". I occasionally need/want to do some unusual things policy-wise (WRT accepting or rejecting mail) and Postfix can itself handle 95% of it. For the other 5%, I tweak AMaViS or write my own policy daemons.

N.B.: My personal mail server (currently) runs on FreeBSD, where I use OpenBSD's "spamd" [4] for greylisting. Personally, I prefer and use that over postscreen (it stops upwards of 90% of remote mail systems from even getting to talk to the "real" MTA!) but on my (CentOS) Linux-based mail systems, I now just use postscreen (previously, I had a "standalone" OpenBSD box running "spamd" sitting in front of Barracuda appliances (as a transparent SMTP proxy). postscreen is really simple to get up and running -- and even more so if you're already using Postfix! -- and a very minimal, basic postscreen configyration will stop the majority of "zombies", hijacked PCs, blacklisted hosts, etc., from getting through to your actual SMTP server.

[0]: http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html

[1]: http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html

[2]: http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html

[3]: http://www.postfix.org/MILTER_README.html

[4]: https://www.openbsd.org/spamd/index.html

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247. steven+Aj6[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-30 19:33:58
>>steven+xY1
Days after posting about the need for cloudflare (and others) to decentralize / split up; and there is this article in the Guardian for the UK: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/30/we-can...

Equating cloudflare tech with nazi bouncers, and killing. Needing to be used to shutdown sites.

with things like this: >> Cloudflare has built “edge servers” – data centres that store content locally. There are 30 in Europe, including one in London and one in Manchester. The British government cannot regulate the worldwide web, but it could enforce the law in Britain. The anti-fascists at Hope not Hate begged ministers to make Cloudflare’s British operations comply with anti-Nazi legislation.

>> Cloudflare, by contrast, is enabling men who want to kill, not argue.

There was a time when the tech was not easily understood, and the argument of dumb pipes was kind of legit. It seems that time is over, in no small part because tech has not been sticking to their principals (imho).

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