>>detaro+(OP)
The biggest problem is the lack of a certified laptop. Librem13 was certified for R3 but as of now there is nothing certified for R4 [0]. Their stance on Intel ME is clear and good. I hope they don't give it up or water it down with commercial licensing. So theoretically if I approach them as a company and tell them I want to get Qubes on company laptops they should tell me no laptops are secure.

One of the most interesting OS project imo, I hope there will be some changes on the hardware side eventually but unfortunately I remain skeptical.

[0] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/certified-laptops/

>>detaro+(OP)
Does this mean Qubes OS 4.0 will be delayed, as the team's efforts focus on supporting version 3.2 for enterprise? I assume this also means significant UI improvements will be delayed even further, because companies don't like user interfaces changing up on them every 2 years. Although I think they would also benefit from an improved and easier to use interface, which would ultimately decrease training time and costs.

It would be nice if we could get an updated roadmap soon, perhaps after the Qubes OS team already gets some enterprise customers and things are more stable. The other one is already almost 2 years old (and behind).

https://github.com/rootkovska/qubes-roadmap

>>detaro+(OP)
I find annoying when a project identifies itself as an "Operating System" that I didn't know about... until now, because I suspect that it may be a Linux distribution and not a new OS, but I can't tell from the main page.

I understand why (tying to avoid the "yet another Linux distro" stigma), but when you go to "What is Qubes OS?" in https://www.qubes-os.org/intro/ ; they fail to mention that is Linux based.

Well, to be fair this one has a FAQ entry: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/user-faq/#is-qubes-just-another... ; although they try to understate that they use Linux.

If they want me to trust them, they're doing it wrong.

>>kriro+dc
This is a problem for every x86 operating system.

If you are already running an operating system on an Intel vPro (VT-d, TXT) laptop, you can likely run Qubes on that hardware.

If you are concerned about the Intel ME, you would need an Ivy Bridge vPro device like the Lenovo x230, plus skillz [0] that improves the security posture of all operating systems, including Qubes.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13056997

>>slayma+VF
>Running it in a VM

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/user-faq/#can-i-install-qubes-i...