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1. workit+(OP)[view] [source] 2015-12-12 15:59:54
Thinking the same thing, I use vi for short scripts all the time but can't imagine doing anything more complex than that without the power of an IDE to assist with or even do the grunt work for me.
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2. JustSo+L6[view] [source] 2015-12-12 18:09:43
>>workit+(OP)
I do let the idea do the grunt work for me. But when I get down to writing the important code, I slow down and reason about it without an IDE.

I generally don't need an ide to keep popping up telling me what to type. I know what I'm doing.

3. Robopr+ib[view] [source] 2015-12-12 19:24:52
>>workit+(OP)
I appreciate the cross referencing / browsing / documentation capabilities of a good IDE. (especially if it has a vim plugin so my fingers know what to do)

If I uncharitably assume that grunt work means "redundant boilerplate", that sounds like more of a language issue than a tool issue. This said as a Java programmer who has been doing a lot of JavaScript this last year, and REALLY appreciates the brevity. Even if your IDE can generate it, that doesn't mean I want to read it.

Java: the language that has to wear a paper bag over its face while it's screwin' ya. :-)

(think of all those Eclipse plugins to visualize fugly XML bogo-DSLs and other cruft for The Enterprise -- sure, there are worse languages out there, but not in common use now)

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4. edwinn+Gj1[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-12-13 22:06:05
>>Robopr+ib
IDE these days are more than that :)

https://emptysqua.re/blog/unittests-code-coverage-in-pycharm...

http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2012/04/code-coverage-for-jav...

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