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1. smhend+v1[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:26:52
>>uptown+(OP)
That seems way too harsh to me. I have strong opinions on the US War on Drugs and it's failure to meaningful deal with drug use/abuse in the USA. And I feel even worse about how it's spilling out into the rest of the world as we go "global" with everything.

I can't say I know every detail of the case but I don't recall anyone getting killed or even hurt by Mr. Ulbricht so in my mind the punishment does not fit the crime. IMHO the death penalty should be off the table completely (go Nebraska!) and life in prison reserved for only violent offenders. You can argue that he enabled people to harm themselves but I think that's stretching it. If people want to take drugs, even take too much drugs their going to get it somewhere. If drugs were legal and treatment of abuse the focus instead of punishment Silk Road wouldn't have existed in the first place.

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2. drcode+o2[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:31:59
>>smhend+v1
You have to understand that the "murder for hire" evidence was introduced as part of the trial (at which point Ross' lawyer could have disputed it, but didn't) so it could be used as part of the sentencing decision... and that kind of takes the luster off of the "non-violent crime" argument.
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3. Cantre+b3[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:36:14
>>drcode+o2
Plus, it happened multiple times. Even if no one was actually killed the guy still tried to have multiple people killed.
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4. thorno+M5[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:53:32
>>Cantre+b3
The person Ross hired as a hitman was an undercover agent who had been befriending Ross online for over a year.
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5. Retric+r6[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:58:55
>>thorno+M5
This may have qualified as entrapment which could be why he was not brought up on charges for this.

Still, IMO it is reasonable to bring that up as a character issue.

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6. 542458+6a[view] [source] 2015-05-29 21:33:15
>>Retric+r6
How would that be entrapment? The police have to remove your ability to make a choice for it to be entrapment.

http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-wa...

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7. Retric+Mb[view] [source] 2015-05-29 21:52:31
>>542458+6a
They don't have to remove your choice. They need to significantly change your mind.

Basically, if the undercover cop suggests X and you say no. Then come on nobody will know, and you say no. And then they spend the next six weeks convincing you it's a good idea, then that's entrapment.

The issue is he was on a sting for over a year and that's plenty of time to cross the line.

Of note, asking several times and catching someone at a moment of weakness is not entrapment. So, if you have been clean for 10 years then you’re out of luck.

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