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1. mwsher+W2[view] [source] 2014-06-12 17:27:40
>>gkober+(OP)
There is no legal covenant here. I imagine Tesla’s definition of “good faith” is “we evaluate on a case by case basis”.

Which amounts to “if we like you” and “we reserve the right”. If they wanted these patents to be open source, they would license them explicitly.

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2. yonran+M4[view] [source] 2014-06-12 17:41:09
>>mwsher+W2
Intellectual Ventures is known to weaponize their patents by “selling” them to a company that does nothing but sue other people and can’t be sued for infringement. Is there any license that Tesla can write to open their patents but protect themselves in the case that another car maker uses Tesla’s patents but sells their own patents to a company that sues Tesla?
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3. sitkac+y8[view] [source] 2014-06-12 18:19:15
>>yonran+M4
IV could be what Tesla and SpaceX is, but Myhrvold is an empire building twit. The people he hires leave to do better things because the things they do are not good. So much wasted human capital.
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4. yonran+Ld[view] [source] 2014-06-12 19:15:38
>>sitkac+y8
I wasn’t comparing Tesla to IV, I was comparing another auto manufacturer to IV. The point is, no one wants to be the chump offering their own patents on FRAND terms while the competition is not playing fair. And the ways that a competitor might play unfairly are probably impossible to enumerate in a single blanket license, thus necessitating the vague language of the blog post.
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