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1. swomba+ab[view] [source] 2013-11-26 11:45:02
>>jseip+(OP)
Hilarious that the original article was flagged off the front page, but this one isn't...

I find it very disheartening that the negative voices are being given so much weight. Everything that's worth doing will have detractors, and when it's something really worth doing it will have vocal detractors. Back when I had comments on my blog, every article I wrote that was any good had at least one person commenting that I was a moron or some equivalent statement.

Great things arouse passion - on both sides.

Giving 10x the power to the people on the negative side just creates an environment where new ideas are discouraged, where important but difficult discourse is pushed aside, where things of true import are penalised out of the group's attention by a few detractors.

There does need to be a system for flagging and removing spam articles, but if this system can (as it plainly regularly is) be co-opted to remove articles from sight just based on not liking them much, then it is broken. The people who have flagging powers are not responsible enough to use them wisely, perhaps.

I see at least one simple solution: lift the flagging privileges so it only becomes available to a much smaller segment of the population. Perhaps making the limit 10'000 instead of 500 would do that. That would still include hundreds of people, based on a quick extrapolation from https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders ). An even better model would be to make it dynamic - perhaps the top 200 commenters...

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2. pg+x31[view] [source] 2013-11-26 20:22:37
>>swomba+ab
We don't let users abuse flagging. We have software that identifies users who flag excessive numbers of stories, and we take away their ability to flag.
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3. bigiai+Zq1[view] [source] 2013-11-27 00:32:43
>>pg+x31
And, FWIW, you don't seem to automatically get it back (at least not within six or eight months - I had this one angry, ill-considered day once…)
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4. seiji+bs1[view] [source] 2013-11-27 00:48:27
>>bigiai+Zq1
I've been flag free for over two (three?) years now. No big loss.
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5. bigiai+qy1[view] [source] 2013-11-27 02:23:18
>>seiji+bs1
Yeah, I figure I'd probably get it back pretty easily if I asked Paul and apologised - but I really don't miss the "opportunity to be negative". So long as he's happy that there are sufficient people down-flagging the stuff that requires down-flagging, the site will happily exist without _my_ opinions of what's worthwhile and what isn't.
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