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>>KenCoc+(OP)
I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh.

EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

>>untog+M
I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me.

Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

>>hyperb+v1
And spoons make you fat

>>vyrote+H1
Guns themselves don't kill people, but they make it highly efficient. Guns are tools, they create or enhance capabilities and as such they can be judged based on the probable outcomes of their usage.

>>hackin+L2
[Spoons] themselves don't [make people fat], but they make it highly efficient. [Spoons] are tools, they create or enhance capabilities and as such they can be judged based on the outcomes of their usage.

>>marknu+a3
So perhaps you'd like your neighbor to acquire a nuke or smallpox-based vaccine. Sure, he's a great guy and will never use these things, and besides, nukes have plenty of other purposes in a household. Their primary reason is totally not for killing people, so this is all good, right?

>>IgorPa+t6
Let's not resort to reductio ad absurdum arguments, please. There's plenty of rationale arguments that you could have made instead. No one's suggesting that people should be allowed to keep nuclear bombs in their homes, and your metaphor is untenable.

>>davidc+09
Well, I do see someone suggesting that spoons and guns are functionally equivalent, and that if we regulate guns we must regulate spoons.

But you are right, no reason to resort to this.

>>IgorPa+Rb
You're right. The spoons argument isn't any better. Thank you for being level-headed enough to see that instead of arguing.

People are understandably upset about what happened and emotions are getting the best of people. I guess today isn't a good day for rationale debate.