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>>KenCoc+(OP)
I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh.

EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

>>untog+M
What do you mean? That's usually the first thing people talk about when they hear about a shooting. There is always lots of talk. However, it's a divisive issue that many people feel strongly about and it's a constitutional issue.

>>dmm+21
Well, I mean talk seriously. Even in the presidential debates, both candidates ran away from a serious discussion on the topic. I know it's divisive, I know people feel strongly about it, but it appears that no politician is interested in starting a real debate.

>>untog+n1
I don't know how anyone can seriously discuss gun control, as it's an impossible and naive goal. A majority of the really public shootings are done using weapons legally acquired by persons with no prior history. If you want to stop that, then you can't let anyone have a gun.

There's absolutely no way to prevent people from losing it, so the focus should be on minimizing the damage and finding a good process for dealing with the aftermath.

Politicians don't want to touch it because of votes. There are idiots who vote solely for whoever is against guns, or for them, or against abortion, or for it. That's what really drives every election, very select issues that they abuse to extremes. The media doesn't look for the truth any longer, because why do something new when you can just repeat the same pattern every cycle and milk the shit out of it. When a politician takes a stand, and tries to discuss something real, they are sidelined and derided by their own people. They don't want an honest debate because then they'd have nothing to pretend to argue about.

Guns aren't going anywhere, ever... Any attempt at additional control would only lead to violence. Abortion isn't going anywhere, ever... Not even the supposed anti-abortion politicians have any intent of changing those laws. People need to realize this.

The answer is probably more guns, not less. Any number of armed school personnel could have lessened this nightmare. If you're tasked with protecting children, shouldn't you be prepared for a gun fight?

>>gfosco+X5
> The answer is probably more guns, not less. Any number of armed school personnel could have lessened this nightmare. If you're tasked with protecting children, shouldn't you be prepared for a gun fight?

Any number of armed school personnel could have made this situation WORSE by firing into a wild crowd in an attempt to attack the shooter, whom they might not even identify correctly in the first place.

Keep in mind that school personnel are NOT tasked with protecting children from violent assault threats. They are tasked with education and a kind of child care for 7-8 hours a day. School systems already have tremendous difficult providing support for larger scale issues that fall outside of those realms, and we shouldn't expect that arming school staff would make for anything other than a climate in which those weapons will be used against students. We already have enough problems with making school systems more like prisons, arming the staff is not a solution to fixing that.