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1. kace91+Ek[view] [source] 2026-02-04 21:59:04
>>strayd+(OP)
>The people really leading AI coding right now (and I’d put myself near the front, though not all the way there) don’t read code. They manage the things that produce code.

I can’t imagine any other example where people voluntarily move for a black box approach.

Imagine taking a picture on autoshot mode and refusing to look at it. If the client doesn’t like it because it’s too bright, tweak the settings and shoot again, but never look at the output.

What is the logic here? Because if you can read code, I can’t imagine poking the result with black box testing being faster.

Are these people just handing off the review process to others? Are they unable to read code and hiding it? Why would you handicap yourself this way?

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2. manmal+Zl[view] [source] 2026-02-04 22:05:43
>>kace91+Ek
> I can’t imagine any other example where people voluntarily move for a black box approach.

Anyone overseeing work from multiple people has to? At some point you have to let go and trust people‘s judgement, or, well, let them go. Reading and understanding the whole output of 9 concurrently running agents is impossible. People who do that (I‘m not one of them btw) must rely on higher level reports. Maybe drilling into this or that piece of code occasionally.

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3. re-thc+Fn[view] [source] 2026-02-04 22:13:52
>>manmal+Zl
> Anyone overseeing work from multiple people has to?

That's not a black box though. Someone is still reading the code.

> At some point you have to let go and trust people‘s judgement

Where's the people in this case?

> People who do that (I‘m not one of them btw) must rely on higher level reports.

Does such a thing exist here? Just "done".

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4. manmal+nt[view] [source] 2026-02-04 22:44:20
>>re-thc+Fn
> Someone is still reading the code.

But you are not. That’s the point?

> Where's the people in this case?

Juniors build worse code than codex. Their superiors also can‘t check everything they do. They need to have some level of trust for doing dumb shit, or they can’t hire juniors.

> Does such a thing exist here? Just "done".

Not sure what you mean. You can definitely ask the agent what it built, why it built it, and what could be improved. You will get only part of the info vs when you read the output, but it won’t be zero info.

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